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To: af_vet_1981
>>If one doesn't want want the religion one inherited from the Jews, one can return it for a full refund.<<

And not one of the offerings designated by God were to be offered for dead people.

>>No, that is what the scripture says. If you endeavor to quote the Holy Spirit, you should do so correctly.<<

So you don't believe that all of scripture is inspired by the Holy Spirit?

>>Do you have a specific commandment from Messiah or an Apostle that "quoting from books" that you think disagree with the Holy Spirit "is deadly?"<<

If it wasn't taught by the apostles? Yes.

Galatians 1:8 But though we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel unto you than that which we have preached unto you, let him be accursed.

>>I assume you'll tolerate the Apostle to the Gentiles quoting Epimenides when he wrote a poem to a Greek diety:<<

Nice try at obfuscation but it doesn't work. You were not quoting Maccabees to condemn the teaching contained or those who believe it.

299 posted on 11/04/2014 2:09:59 PM PST by CynicalBear (For I decided to know nothing among you except Jesus)
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To: CynicalBear
And not one of the offerings designated by God were to be offered for dead people.

Odd; the Jews appear not to have heeded your rule in 2 Maccabees 12 and I find no scripture upbraiding them. In fact, we see in Isaiah 53 as well as 2 Corinthians 5 that Messiah became the sin offering for the living and the dead. Yet it pleased the Lord to bruise him; he hath put him to grief: when thou shalt make his soul an offering for sin, he shall see his seed, he shall prolong his days, and the pleasure of the Lord shall prosper in his hand.

For he hath made him to be sin for us, who knew no sin; that we might be made the righteousness of God in him.

For Christ also hath once suffered for sins, the just for the unjust, that he might bring us to God, being put to death in the flesh, but quickened by the Spirit: By which also he went and preached unto the spirits in prison; Which sometime were disobedient, when once the longsuffering of God waited in the days of Noah, while the ark was a preparing, wherein few, that is, eight souls were saved by water. The like figure whereunto even baptism doth also now save us (not the putting away of the filth of the flesh, but the answer of a good conscience toward God,) by the resurrection of Jesus Christ: Who is gone into heaven, and is on the right hand of God; angels and authorities and powers being made subject unto him.

If you don't believe, or it offends your conscience, that you can pray to God through the LORD Jesus Christ to intercede for someone like Onesiphorous, then do not 23 And he that doubteth is damned if he eat, because he eateth not of faith: for whatsoever is not of faith is sin.

Only do not leave an offering of flowers or something else at a funeral if you are unwilling to pray for the departed soul; that would be incongruent.

So you don't believe that all of scripture is inspired by the Holy Spirit?

I believe All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:

16 All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:

I think you mischaracterized the speaker in your post.

308 posted on 11/04/2014 4:05:10 PM PST by af_vet_1981 (The bus came by and I got on, That's when it all began.)
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