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JOEL OSTEEN: "OBAMA IS A CHRISTIAN, DOING A GOOD JOB"
Ivarfjeld.com ^ | June 29, 2009 | ivarfjeld

Posted on 10/28/2014 4:38:00 AM PDT by ilovesarah2012

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To: BwanaNdege

You are right. This has nothing to do with the size of the church. It has everything to do with the MESSAGE of the GOSPEL being diluted, desecrated and demolished!!
The GOSPEL OF JESUS CHRIST must NEVER be compromised, EVER!


81 posted on 10/28/2014 5:21:56 AM PDT by pollywog ( " O thou who changest not....ABIDE with me")
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To: Roman_War_Criminal

Joel Osteen’s $10.5 Million Mansion, Cross-Less Church and Other Surprising Facts About the Mega-Pastor

http://www.christianpost.com/buzzvine/joel-osteens-10-5-million-mansion-cross-less-church-and-other-surprising-facts-about-the-mega-pastor-106986/


82 posted on 10/28/2014 5:22:38 AM PDT by ilovesarah2012
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To: SampleMan
I've never listened to him very long, so perhaps I'm doing him a disservice, but that's the takeaway I've gotten, thus my opinion.

I listened in on Sirius the other day while he was blathering on about listening to God. If you have an unsettled spirit it is God telling you not to do something. OK, I get that.

The he starts talking about how, over a period of several years his dad agreed to buy land from a farmer to expand the church and at the last minute backed out because of this unsettled spirit.

The first time it was because the banknote would have been too high.
The second time they had enough for a good down payment but he was still was unsettled.

The third time the farmer was having a tough time of things and had to sell, lowered the price from $20,000 an acre to $5,000 and acre.

Osteen took that as a reward for being patient and listening to God. Now here is my issue. A good faith offer was made to buy the property twice. At the last minute the church backed out. What happened to letting your yes be a yes? Secondly, does this not reek of the church taking advantage of someone who is down on their luck? All in all it doesn't seem like the Biblical model of doing business with someone.

83 posted on 10/28/2014 5:22:40 AM PDT by Gamecock (USA, Ret.)
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To: Gamecock

He is a Pharisee


84 posted on 10/28/2014 5:24:12 AM PDT by DocJ69
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To: Gaffer

:: he gets his cash from the flock ::

Which is why I used the term “by-way-of the gummint”.

The ‘Prosperity Gospel’ is insidious in it’s deception. If “the flock” are comfortable with looking to Uncle Sugar for some (or all) portion of their so-called prosperity, do they then provide Osteen with offerings according to their “prosperity”?

Just thinking out loud...


85 posted on 10/28/2014 5:24:36 AM PDT by Cletus.D.Yokel (Catastrophic Anthropogenic Climate Alterations: The acronym explains the science.)
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To: Gamecock

You are right! The owner of the threshing floor area was willing to give it away but the King insisted on paying full price.


86 posted on 10/28/2014 5:25:27 AM PDT by Resettozero
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To: Drawsing
My name is Paul, the apostle. I have been whipped with 39 lashes five times, I have been stoned almost to death. I have been shipwrecked twice, and now I am in a Roman prison. I am not having my best life now...but I am looking forward to eternal life. For me, to live is Christ, and to die is gain.


87 posted on 10/28/2014 5:26:25 AM PDT by Gamecock (USA, Ret.)
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To: ilovesarah2012

There is just something about radio/television preachers that grates on me.

“Send me $5.00 a week or a month and I will pray you straight into Heaven”


88 posted on 10/28/2014 5:27:11 AM PDT by Tupelo (I am feeling more like Phillip Nolan by the day.)
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To: Gaffer

See post #48. I think that shows my assertion might be close to the troof.


89 posted on 10/28/2014 5:29:31 AM PDT by Cletus.D.Yokel (Catastrophic Anthropogenic Climate Alterations: The acronym explains the science.)
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To: Cletus.D.Yokel
If “the flock” are comfortable with looking to Uncle Sugar for some (or all) portion of their so-called prosperity, do they then provide Osteen with offerings according to their “prosperity”?

Perhaps after they have purchased this week's lottery tickets.
90 posted on 10/28/2014 5:30:16 AM PDT by Resettozero
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To: Ann Archy

When I first listened to Zero, I said to myself he is like a tent evangalist with his hopey changy crap, greek stage and all that stuff. How about that There is a power in you that has more power than that can be used against you or something close to that. I put that right up there with America will be fundamentally changed. No one ask the a holes what the hell that means!


91 posted on 10/28/2014 5:30:30 AM PDT by DooDahhhh
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To: Resettozero

EBT and Lotto! A potent religious experience!


92 posted on 10/28/2014 5:34:04 AM PDT by Cletus.D.Yokel (Catastrophic Anthropogenic Climate Alterations: The acronym explains the science.)
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To: Salvavida

I’ve been tempted to put out rebuttals on the “Word of the day” posts-—but the rule against responding to them and fear of being deleted deterred me. Osteen has no idea what it means to be a Christian-—in his world you just pray hard and God will give you a mercedes.


93 posted on 10/28/2014 5:34:10 AM PDT by bjcoop
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To: Doctor 2Brains

That’s the idiocy of it. Those threads could be a lot of fun if we were allowed to actually comment.

They might as well have devotional, criticism-free threads dedicated to fire-breathing Imams while they’re at it. They’re leading they’re followers to the same final destination as O$teen.


94 posted on 10/28/2014 5:34:56 AM PDT by WhistlingPastTheGraveyard (The greatest trick the Soviets ever pulled was convincing the world they didn't exist.)
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To: WhistlingPastTheGraveyard

“Their”, not “they’re”. Yeesh.


95 posted on 10/28/2014 5:36:41 AM PDT by WhistlingPastTheGraveyard (The greatest trick the Soviets ever pulled was convincing the world they didn't exist.)
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To: BwanaNdege

No, I doubt that.


96 posted on 10/28/2014 5:37:12 AM PDT by LouAvul (If government is the answer, you're asking the wrong question.)
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To: bjcoop
...fear of being deleted deterred me.

I understand that temptation. But as long as your username is recorded in the Book of Life, you need to have no worries about where else on Earth it may be rubbed out.

"Fear not!"
97 posted on 10/28/2014 5:38:47 AM PDT by Resettozero
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To: VanDeKoik
Another reason why I hate mega-churches.

We're on the way home from Houston, where we rode by his mega-"church" two or three times - it's a huge converted basketball palace.

98 posted on 10/28/2014 5:41:20 AM PDT by ErnBatavia (It ain't a "hashtag"....it's a damn pound sign, number sign, or octothorpe. ###)
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To: ilovesarah2012

Good way to lose a million viewers. LOL. What a fool.


99 posted on 10/28/2014 5:43:22 AM PDT by jersey117 (sams.)
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To: ilovesarah2012

A mega church full of folks who have forgotten to pray for discernment?


100 posted on 10/28/2014 5:45:29 AM PDT by SisterK (we are being set up)
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