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To: Nea Wood
Nea Wood:"Aren’t Mormons also supposed to believe the Bible in addition to their ‘Book of Mormons’? They only believe the Bible insofar as it is translated correctly"

There is only 'The Book of Mormon' (singular)
The 'Pearl of Great Price'
and the 'Old Testament' (King James version) taken as scripture.

34 posted on 10/26/2014 10:22:38 PM PDT by Tilted Irish Kilt
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To: Tilted Irish Kilt
"They only believe the Bible insofar as it is translated correctly"

Please don't repeat misinformation.

Septuagint, Koine Greek, Hebrew. There are plenty of scholars who can speak it, read it, write it.

This one line is what you always hear; it's oft-repeated, and entirely WRONG. My wife speaks Spanish. I speak some. You can very accurately translate concepts from language to language if you have the knowledge, skills, education, or tools (like a good lexicon).

Please don't repeat this untruth. We have very accurate translations of the Bible, both Old and New Testament. There were SO many manuscripts to compare, it made the process remarkably easy to double-check.

There are over 5,200 copies of the New Testament extant in museums, libraries, and personal collections. They are in agreement. There's more evidence for the Christ of the Bible than there was in the few manuscript copies for Plato/Aristotle/Socrates. (I think seven copies, if I'm not mistaken.)

YET...people don't want to believe in Christ (5,200+) but readily believe in Socrates (7) although only Plato/Aristotle mentioned him in what they wrote.

Go figure.

45 posted on 10/27/2014 4:57:41 AM PDT by sauron ("Truth is hate to those who hate Truth" --unknown)
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To: Tilted Irish Kilt
Here is MORMONism's own creed:
 
 

Articles of Faith

The Articles of Faith outline 13 basic points of belief of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints.
The Prophet Joseph Smith first wrote them in a letter to John Wentworth, a newspaper editor,
in response to Mr. Wentworth's request to know what members of the Church believed.
They were subsequently published in Church periodicals.
They are now regarded as scripture and included in the Pearl of Great Price.

 
THE ARTICLES OF FAITH
OF THE CHURCH OF JESUS CHRIST OF LATTER-DAY SAINTS
History of the Church, Vol. 4, pp. 535—541
 
 

  1. We believe in God, the Eternal Father, and in His Son, Jesus Christ, and in the Holy Ghost.
  2. We believe that men will be punished for their own sins, and not for Adam's transgression.
  3. We believe that through the Atonement of Christ, all mankind may be saved, by obedience to the laws and ordinances of the Gospel.
  4. We believe that the first principles and ordinances of the Gospel are: first, Faith in the Lord Jesus Christ; second, Repentance; third, Baptism by immersion for the remission of sins; fourth, Laying on of hands for the gift of the Holy Ghost.
  5. We believe that a man must be called of God, by prophecy, and by the laying on of hands by those who are in authority, to preach the Gospel and administer in the ordinances thereof.
  6. We believe in the same organization that existed in the Primitive Church, namely, apostles, prophets, pastors, teachers, evangelists, and so forth.
  7. We believe in the gift of tongues, prophecy, revelation, visions, healing, interpretation of tongues, and so forth.
  8. We believe the Bible to be the word of God as far as it is translated correctly; we also believe the Book of Mormon to be the word of God.
  9. We believe all that God has revealed, all that He does now reveal, and we believe that He will yet reveal many great and important things pertaining to the Kingdom of God.
  10. We believe in the literal gathering of Israel and in the restoration of the Ten Tribes; that Zion (the New Jerusalem) will be built upon the American continent; that Christ will reign personally upon the earth; and, that the earth will be renewed and receive its paradisiacal glory.
  11. We claim the privilege of worshiping Almighty God according to the dictates of our own conscience, and allow all men the same privilege, let them worship how, where, or what they may.
  12. We believe in being subject to kings, presidents, rulers, and magistrates, in obeying, honoring, and sustaining the law.
  13. We believe in being honest, true, chaste, benevolent, virtuous, and in doing good to all men; indeed, we may say that we follow the admonition of Paul—We believe all things, we hope all things, we have endured many things, and hope to be able to endure all things. If there is anything virtuous, lovely, or of good report or praiseworthy, we seek after these things.

Joseph Smith


 

66 posted on 10/27/2014 9:35:54 AM PDT by Elsie ( Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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