Posted on 10/20/2014 7:37:34 PM PDT by The Ignorant Fisherman
Is it not sobering and very curious that Israel, even when they are totally out of the will of Almighty God are still the scourge of the nations (Deut. 28-32, Lev. 26)? This in its self is a testament to the fulfillment of the Word of the Lord and Bible prophecy and a sign to all nations and to the Jews that Israel is Almighty God's people. It will be after the destruction of Gog's confederacy that Almighty God will reveal this very point (Ezek.39, 7, 21-26). The nation of Israel at present - though back in the land - is out of the will of the TRUE KING of Israel and in the days coming up He will send them the two mighty patriarchs of old (Moses and Elijah), whom Israel has always reverenced. They will be dressed in black sackcloth and will awaken Israel slumber and address their godlessness and spiritual apostasy (Deut. 28-32, Lev. 26, Ezek. 39:21-24, Dan. 9:26-27, Matt. 23:37, 27:22-25, Rev. 11:2-6).
It will come to be in the near future at the beginning of the Day of the Lord (Dan. 9:27, Rev. 6:1-2) when Israel has beforehand eliminated her border enemies (Ezek. 38:8,11,13,14,39:25-26), that Almighty God's Two Witnesses will arrive in Israel and provide supernatural protection for their ministry which also will include the supernatural protection of the nation Israel (Ezek. 38:8,11,13,14,39:25-26, Rev. 11:2-6, 10). Under the Divine protection of Moses and Elijah (Rev. 11:2-6, 10) Israel will dwell in unwalled cities in complete safety and security, while the nations go through horrific global war and demonic domination (Ezek. 38:8,11,13,14, Rev. 6-9).
What is most tragic about this time of security and safety (Ezek. 38:8,11,13,14, 39:25-26) is that Israel will NOT want to hear the message of salvation which is found in Yeshua presented by Moses and Elijah (the Two Witnesses). Just as their fathers of old did not want to hear redemption's story so will the overwhelming majority of Jews at this time. The Jews at this time WILL NOT let go of their delusional bankrupt religious views and secularism - which exclude the RIGHTEOUSNESS of Almighty God (Rom. 10:2-4) - and will continue to seek to outlive their godless existence even in the light of Divine authority and signs and wonders at the hands of Almighty God's two BURNING Lamp Stands (Psalm 76, 106, Ezek. 39:7, 25-26, Zech. 13:6-9, Acts 2, 7, Matt. 27:22-25, John 19:15, Rev. 11:2-6, 8). Israel will rebel against the temple worship established at Moses and Elijah's hand which points back to Messiah's person and work (Isa. 53), their prophecies and the wonderful REALITY and TRUTH of Messiah's soon GLORIOUS second coming from the RIGHT HAND of the Father to establish His Kingdom reign (Psalm 110:1, Ezek. 39:25-26, Isa. 61:1-6, Dan. 2:44-45, 7:13,14, Zech. 14: 1-4, Rev. 1:5, 11:26, Rev. 19:11-21)!
As the inhabitants of Israel see the world going through HORRIFIC tribulation (Matt. 24: 6-8, Rev. 6-9) as they (Israel) dwell in security, safety and unbelief (Ezek. 38:8,11,13,14), they will become callus, idle and will rebel continually against the very ones who are the patriarch's of Israel (Moses and Elijah) and their testimony and word. It will be at this time near the middle of the first half of the tribulation period that Almighty God will use Israel and their prosperity in the land - which has been "brought back from the sword" - as bait to bait Gog of the land of Magog and his Islamic confederacy to come and take a "spoil" and a "prey" (Ezek. 38:8-14, 39:7, 25-26). In using this demonically governed man (Gog), Almighty God will seek to get Israel's FULL attention as he once did with Pharaoh at the birth of their nation (Ex. 14:4, Ezek 39:7,21). Almighty God will FULLY manifest His glory and Name among unbelieving Israel and the gentile nations and there will be no doubt to the REALITY of His ETERNAL Name and PERSON that He is the God of Israel and ETERNAL SOVEREIGN of ALL ETERNITY and the earth (Ezek. 39:7,21-26, Dan. 4:17).
Here is some background into Gog's great desire. In the first 3 1/2 years of global tribulation the world's gentile nations have been going through HORRIFIC global war, supernatural plagues, demonic domination and demonic destruction (Matt. 24:6-8, Rev. 6-9). The surviving nations of the world at this time have seen firsthand the Divine SUPERNATURAL protective hand of Moses and Elijah and are suffering greatly from the consequences of the Seal and Trumpet Judgments (Rev. 6-9, 11:2-6). With such HORRIFIC devastation heaped upon Gog and his confederacy during this time the land of Israel is a perfect target for supplies, resources, food and revenge (Ezek. 38:10-13). Israel during this time will be the most despised nation of the world and much of that EXPONENTIAL hatred has to do with the TREMENDOUS POWER, AUTHORITY and MINISTRY of Moses and Elijah (Matt. 24:6-9, Rev. 11:2-6, 10).
It will be that this time that Gog will come out of his northern dwelling with his massive army and confederacy and seek to cover the land of Israel like a tremendous storm cloud to plunder and destroy (Ezek 38). Millions of the surviving inhabitants from the prior Seal and Trumpet judgments (Rev. 6-9) from these nations will mass on Israel who are unbelieving, unprepared and idle (Ezek. 38:8-14, 39:7, 25-26). Because the Two Witnesses of Revelation's ministry to Israel takes place in the first half of the tribulation period (Rev. 11:2-7) and Gog's invasion of Israel also takes place during this time period we have concluded here at the IFB that Gog and Almighty God's Two Witnesses will go head to head (Rev. 11:5-7, 38:16-23, 39). As Gog's armies approach Israel to destroy and plunder her, Almighty God by the hand of His Two Witnesses (Moses and Elijah) will call down GREAT and HORRIFIC destruction on Gog's host and deliver the nation of Israel from utter ruin (Ezek. 38:18-23, 39:1-8). At the hand of Moses and Elijah (Ezek.38:16-23, 39:1-7, Rev. 11:2-6) Almighty God will make known His glory and Name among unbelieving Israel and the raging nations and whether or not these choose to repent and believe they will know without a shadow of doubt that Almighty God is God and that these two messengers are His prophets. As Almighty God delivered Israel from Pharaoh's armies at the Red Sea (Ex.14-15) so will it be in this day (Ezek. 38:23, 39:7,13, 21,22).
This beyond amazing victory will cause Jews in the land and Gentile nations to FULLY comprehend that Almighty God is GOD and the God and protector of the people Israel (the apple of His eye) and that Israel went into captivity since 70 AD.because of their iniquity, unbelief and rebellion (Ezek. 39:6-7, 23).
This destruction at the hands of the Moses and Elijah will be so devastating that 5/6 of all of Gog's invading host will be destroyed and their dead bodies will be scattered upon the mountains and valleys in the land of Israel. It will take 7 months to bury Gog's dead hordes and they will give a huge portion of Israel to bury Gog and his host (Ezek. 39:9-20).
Even after this massive invasion of Gog and his horrific destruction at the hand of Moses and Elijah (Almighty God's vessels) Israel will still not believe nor repent (Ezek. 39:25-26, Rev. 11:8)! They will know of a truth that Almighty God is the God of Israel (Ezek. 38: 39:7, 22), for they have seen His WONDROUS POWERFUL hand against Gog's invading armies and confederacy but they are not yet ready to repent and to say that Yeshua is the Messiah and the Lamb of Almighty God and receive the testimony of Almighty God's Two Witnesses, Moses and Elijah (Lev. 17:11-14, Isa. 53, John 3:16-17, Rom. 10:2-4).
My dear friends hear me and hear me well. Almighty God is at total war with any (Jew or Gentile) who chooses to stay unrepentant, rebellious and violate His ETERNAL established SPIRITUAL ABSOLUTES for ETERNITY and MORAL ABSOLUTES for time (John 3:36). The 7 year tribulation period is a time of PURE WRATH of the ungodly in time and the GREAT WHITE THRONE for ALL who remain unrepentant and hardened in their godless rebellion against ALL that is RIGHTEOUS and ABSOLUTE.
Even after the Two Witnesses GREAT and STUPENDOUS victory over Gog's invading millions Israel will still NOT let go of her secularism, godlessness, rebellion and lawlessness and will continue to be hostile towards God's message of salvation that Yeshua IS the Savior of the World (Ezek. 39:25-26, Rev. 11:8). As Israel's unbelieving father's have always done (Psalms. 78,106, Matt. 27: Acts 7), so will also these follow suite. Israel will now find that Almighty God has no other choice now but to remove Israel's protective hedge (Ezek. 39:26, Matt. 24:15-21, Rev. 11:6-14) and allow Satan and his demonic human tool the Anti -Messiah to inflict HORRIFIC GREAT TRIBULATION upon Israel and the world (i,e., Jacob's trouble Jer. 30:4-8, 18). - (Dan. 9: 27, Matt. 24:15-21, Rev. 12:6-17, 13).
My dear Jewish friend, Yeshua (salvation) is the Messiah of Israel and the Savior of the world (Lev. 17:11-14, Isa. 53). He is the FULFILLMENT of the 10 commandments and the end of the Law to RIGHTEOUSNESS to all who believe (Rom. 10:2-4). Israel t present will not place their trust in Him and as the Holy Scripture teaches so very clear she will go through GREAT tribulation and then receive her Messiah with bitter tears (Zech. 12:10-14).
The Kingdom of Heaven is at hand!
DJP I.F.
I’ve always been taught that the two witnesses will be Enoch and Elijah because they never died.
This is not a huge point of contention and I’m not going to go to the mat arguing for it, but I’m just pointing out that there is a fair chunk of Christianity that may disagree.
Well, I’m going to have to go against the grain and agree with you.
God’s chosen people were displaced by the Christians, fulfilling the OT Covenant. Jews are rejectors of Christ, their temple was destroyed, their new religion is man-nade and they have no mechanism for salvation whatsoever.
Gog and Magog
Sorry, their conversion is their only hope for salvation.
Because NO WHERE is what you said in it.
Well then... what do you do with all of Almighty God’s promises for Israel? Isa. 2, Micah 4, Ezek 40-48, Romans 9-11; Deuteronomy 7:6-9; Isaiah 14:1-2; Isaiah 61:7-9; Joel 3:16 & Luke 1:32-33. Refer also to Genesis 17:8; Psalm 53:6 & Psalm 128:5-6.
God’s not done with Israel and Jesus Messiah will reign in Jerusalem in the future Psalm 2:6-9; Isaiah 2:2-4; Joel 3:17; Micah 4:1-3,7 & Zechariah 14:9,16-17. Refer also to Genesis 49:10; 2 Samuel 7:16; Psalm 50:2; Psalm 72:8; Psalm 110:2; Psalm 134:3; Psalm 135:21; Isaiah 9:7; Isaiah 11:9-10; Isaiah 24:23; Jeremiah 3:17; Jeremiah 31:6; Zechariah 2:10-12; Zechariah 8:3; Luke 1:31-33; John 12:13; Philippians 2:10-11 & Revelation 19:16.
I total agree.. many died and were raised again however... The key is to connect the dots and let Matt 17, Rev. 11:3-7 and Mal. 4 describe them to you.
Thanks friend
Zech. 12:10-14, Romans 11:10-12 They will if you believe what the Word of God teaches and not tradition.
The main thing is we concentrate on the main thing. . .Jesus is returning. . .Ready or Not http://www.patburt.com/
By the way Ignorant Fisherman. . .I don’t think you are so ignorant! :)
Son of man, set thy face against Gog, the land of Magog, the chief prince of Meshech and Tubal, and prophesy against him,
And say, Thus saith the Lord God; Behold, I am against thee, O Gog, the chief prince of Meshech and Tubal: Ezek. 38:2-3
Magog is a land, Gog a person
Are you talking about Replacement Theology?
Acts 4:12-13, 1 Cor. 1:18-31 The true definition of ignorance and wise!
True, True... and Amen! but it is fun trying to connect the dots of Scripture and I personally believe that He would have us to!
Thanks and God speed!!
God nath NOT cast away his (Jewish) people 9omans 11:1,2).... All Israel will be saved... Romans 11:26.
Respectfully,
fhc
1 I say then, Hath God cast away his people? God forbid. For I also am an Israelite, of the seed of Abraham, of the tribe of Benjamin.
2 God hath not cast away his people which he foreknew. Wot ye not what the scripture saith of Elias? how he maketh intercession to God against Israel, saying,
3 Lord, they have killed thy prophets, and digged down thine altars; and I am left alone, and they seek my life.
4 But what saith the answer of God unto him? I have reserved to myself seven thousand men, who have not bowed the knee to the image of Baal.
5 Even so then at this present time also there is a remnant according to the election of grace.
6 And if by grace, then is it no more of works: otherwise grace is no more grace. But if it be of works, then is it no more grace: otherwise work is no more work.
7 What then? Israel hath not obtained that which he seeketh for; but the election hath obtained it, and the rest were blinded
8 (According as it is written, God hath given them the spirit of slumber, eyes that they should not see, and ears that they should not hear;) unto this day.
9 And David saith, Let their table be made a snare, and a trap, and a stumblingblock, and a recompence unto them:
10 Let their eyes be darkened, that they may not see, and bow down their back alway.
11 I say then, Have they stumbled that they should fall? God forbid: but rather through their fall salvation is come unto the Gentiles, for to provoke them to jealousy.
12 Now if the fall of them be the riches of the world, and the diminishing of them the riches of the Gentiles; how much more their fulness?
13 For I speak to you Gentiles, inasmuch as I am the apostle of the Gentiles, I magnify mine office:
14 If by any means I may provoke to emulation them which are my flesh, and might save some of them.
15 For if the casting away of them be the reconciling of the world, what shall the receiving of them be, but life from the dead?
16 For if the firstfruit be holy, the lump is also holy: and if the root be holy, so are the branches.
17 And if some of the branches be broken off, and thou, being a wild olive tree, wert graffed in among them, and with them partakest of the root and fatness of the olive tree;
18 Boast not against the branches. But if thou boast, thou bearest not the root, but the root thee.
19 Thou wilt say then, The branches were broken off, that I might be graffed in.
20 Well; because of unbelief they were broken off, and thou standest by faith. Be not highminded, but fear:
21 For if God spared not the natural branches, take heed lest he also spare not thee.
22 Behold therefore the goodness and severity of God: on them which fell, severity; but toward thee, goodness, if thou continue in his goodness: otherwise thou also shalt be cut off.
23 And they also, if they abide not still in unbelief, shall be graffed in: for God is able to graff them in again.
24 For if thou wert cut out of the olive tree which is wild by nature, and wert graffed contrary to nature into a good olive tree: how much more shall these, which be the natural branches, be graffed into their own olive tree?
25 For I would not, brethren, that ye should be ignorant of this mystery, lest ye should be wise in your own conceits; that blindness in part is happened to Israel, until the fulness of the Gentiles be come in.
26 And so all Israel shall be saved: as it is written, There shall come out of Sion the Deliverer, and shall turn away ungodliness from Jacob:
27 For this is my covenant unto them, when I shall take away their sins.
28 As concerning the gospel, they are enemies for your sakes: but as touching the election, they are beloved for the fathers’ sakes.
29 For the gifts and calling of God are without repentance.
Agreeing with me goes against the grain for you, lol?
Wow, a hard-nosed Replacement Theology Catholic on the thread, right off the bat. This is going to be interesting.
Willie is correct. There is no salvation for the Jews outside of Jesus Christ. They have no “mechanism for salvation,” even if they reestablish their temple and start slaughtering animals.
The only point of real debate that can be had is whether or not the Jews will be regathered at some point and converted in mass. That they are now, if unconverted, totally damned, cannot be questioned.
Romans 11:26-29 does not agree with your assessment.
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