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To: ealgeone
catholics try to get around mary worship by saying they don't give her the worship due God. by this statement they acknowledge they worship Mary...just not in the same way they do God. it's a complete play on semantics with catholics.

So, if the words: honor, venerate, and worship are interchangeable and the protestant has no intellectual compunction about conflating them, why are they to be believed when it comes to their interpretation of the Word? The Holy Spirit surely knows that these terms have different meaning and yet the Protestant does not. Which can only strengthen the idea that protestant exegesis is not of the Divine.

309 posted on 10/09/2014 5:03:37 PM PDT by JPX2011
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To: JPX2011; ealgeone

...and many Catholics bow before and kiss the gilded, bejeweled, dessicated remains of dead people.


311 posted on 10/09/2014 5:10:39 PM PDT by Rides_A_Red_Horse (Why do you need a fire extinguisher when you can call the fire department?)
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To: JPX2011
>icatholics try to get around mary worship by saying they don't give her the worship due God. by this statement they acknowledge they worship Mary...just not in the same way they do God. it's a complete play on semantics with catholics. <

So, if the words: honor, venerate, and worship are interchangeable and the protestant has no intellectual compunction about conflating them, why are they to be believed when it comes to their interpretation of the Word? The Holy Spirit surely knows that these terms have different meaning and yet the Protestant does not. Which can only strengthen the idea that protestant exegesis is not of the Divine.

veneror: to reverence, worship, adore, revere, venerate

source: latin word study tool

veneror: Verb

present active veneror, present infinitive venerārī, perfect active venerātus sum (deponent) 1.I worship, adore, revere, venerate 2.I pay (my) respects

as I said, catholics play on the semantics to avoid the idol worship of mary.

if it makes you feel good, go for it....but it is idol worship.

316 posted on 10/09/2014 5:18:18 PM PDT by ealgeone
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To: JPX2011
So, if the words: honor, venerate, and worship are interchangeable and the protestant has no intellectual compunction about conflating them, why are they to be believed when it comes to their interpretation of the Word?

Well, for starters we don't pray to mary which avoids the whole conversation.

There is zero, repeat zero, scriptural support for praying to mary.

The notion of praying to mary is completely man-made; hence it is satan inspired. Satan would have people pray to anyone other than God.

The latin word veneror, as I noted earlier, is a verb meaning to worship, adore, revere, venerate.

Notice that worship is first conveying the primary meaning of the word while venerate is last.

If you understand how a dictionary works, the primary meaning of a word is listed first.

But if it makes you feel better you call it what you want. But words matter.

331 posted on 10/09/2014 5:49:54 PM PDT by ealgeone
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To: JPX2011
The Holy Spirit surely knows that these terms have different meaning and yet the Protestant does not. Which can only strengthen the idea that protestant exegesis is not of the Divine.

Logic 101

417 posted on 10/10/2014 5:14:39 AM PDT by Elsie ( Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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