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To: fishtank
What a remarkably ignorant, tendentious, and hateful article!

find themselves trudging over the Tiber.

He can't even get the slur right. It's swimming the Tiber, IN it, not over it.

150 masses—and you are not perfected, right? 150 sacrifices of Christ.

Apostasy, such as that of the writer from the true Church, DOES have consequences. One frequently seen is the loss of the ability (or the desire) to reason. If the writer thinks that Catholics think that 150 Masses means "150 sacrifices of Christ," he is ignorant. If he does not think so, he is lying.

This sort of knee-jerk and spiteful ignorance was a minor contributor to my swimming the Tiber.

7 posted on 10/08/2014 8:02:42 AM PDT by Mad Dawg (In te, Domine, speravi: non confundar in aeternum.)
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To: Mad Dawg
Well said Dawg.

The Eucharist is an anamnesis - a perfect 'making present' of the Last Supper, Christ's Passion, Death and Resurrection.

It is perfect and effective. We are truly present at Christ's Passion when we go to Mass. Not at some new Passion endlessly repeated but at the one and only Passion of our Lord.

Christ died once. Christ rises from the dead once. We enter into His Passion, His original-once-and-for-ever sacrifice when we attend Mass.

8 posted on 10/08/2014 8:16:54 AM PDT by agere_contra (Hamas has dug miles of tunnels - but no bomb-shelters.)
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To: Mad Dawg

I have had Catholics tell me that the Mass IS a sacrifice, and then I’ve had Catholics tell me it’s NOT a sacrifice.

Romans 6:10 For the death that He died, He died to sin once for all; but the life that He lives, He lives to God.

Hebrews 7:27 who does not need daily, as those high priests, to offer up sacrifices, first for His own sins and then for the people’s, for this He did once for all when He offered up Himself.

Hebrews 9:12 Not with the blood of goats and calves, but with His own blood He entered the Most Holy Place once for all, having obtained eternal redemption.

Hebrews 10:10 By that will we have been sanctified through the offering of the body of Jesus Christ once for all.


10 posted on 10/08/2014 1:48:36 PM PDT by fishtank (The denial of original sin is the root of liberalism.)
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To: Mad Dawg

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2327607/posts?page=13#13

“On my Catholic education:

8 years Catholic grade school

4 years Catholic high school

Weekly CCD classes by quite conservative Novus Ordo RCC priest

Parents subscribed to National Catholic Register, the Wanderer, Fidelity and The Remnant, and I read them while growing up.

My parents fought the Novus Ordo modernism tooth and nail and are now in the SSPX - I would politely challenge you to ask them if they considered me to be inadequately catechized.

I subscribed to Fidelity and Remnant in undergrad college and never stopped contending against modernism in the Catholic Church.”


11 posted on 10/08/2014 1:49:30 PM PDT by fishtank (The denial of original sin is the root of liberalism.)
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To: Mad Dawg

If you reject Vatican 2,

then your Church is dead.

If you accept Vatican 2,

then you think your church is alive.


12 posted on 10/08/2014 1:50:43 PM PDT by fishtank (The denial of original sin is the root of liberalism.)
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