A New Jersey nun credited with curing a boy's eye disease with her beatification

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[ADSUM]

A beatification Mass for Sister Miriam Teresa Demjanovich, who died in 1927 at age 26, will be led Saturday by Cardinal Angelo Amato at the Cathedral Basilica of the Sacred Heart in Newark. It is the third in a four-step process toward sainthood.

[Iscool]

Do you not ask your friends to pray for you when you are sick?

Ya, I do...But they don't get canonized if God choses to heal me...

[Iscool]

It is at Catholic Mass that a Catholic can receive the Body and the Blood of Jesus Christ. That is a wonderful closeness to God.

We Christians are closer than you...We have God in our souls 24/7...He goes well beyond our stomachs...

[Gamecock]

The Pope is unBiblical.
Mary’s ascension to Heaven is ubBiblical.

Much of Roman Catholicism is Biblical. Mind you it is forbidden, but that is still technically Biblical.

[metmom]

Protestantism is unbiblical, Sola Scriptura is unbiblical, sectarianism is unbiblical.

Then the Catholic church is also unbiblical because there are at least 22 sects (relabeled as *rites*) in Catholicism. The RCC and EO have been at odds with each other for hundreds of years, each counting themselves as the original Catholic church and the other as in schism.

So who's correct?

[metmom]

It is the third in a four-step process toward sainthood.

Being born again is a one step process in sainthood.

All born again believers are saints.

[SpirituTuo]

Sorry, but the other rites of the Church are in communion with Rome, and are not separated brethren.

The Orthodox are in schism and we pray for their speedy return, as we do with all of our separated brethren.

The Roman Catholic Church, the one instituted by Our Lord, Jesus Christ, is right. It is the church that assembled the Canon of Scripture.

[SpirituTuo]

The position of head of the church is completely biblical, as Jesus Christ instituted it (Matthew 16:18).

Mary didn’t ascend into Heaven of her own accord, she was assumed, body and soul, by God.

Don’t you think if her physical remains were on Earth that it would be one of the most visited holy places in the world? Why wouldn’t an unscrupulous person seek to profit in the relics? Why not try to create a phony set of relics? Clearly, because nobody believed her physical body was on Earth!

While Mary’s Assumption isn’t recorded in Scripture, it does happen in Scripture (Gen. 5:24, Hebrews 11:5, 2 Kings 2:11)

The earliest recorded instance of the belief in the Assumption is found with St. John Damascene (676-749)in a copy of a letter he preserved from a 5th century Patriarch of Jerusalem named Juvenalius, to the Byzantine Empress Pulcheria. The Empress had apparently asked for relics of the most Holy Virgin Mary.

Patriarch Juvenalius replied that, in accordance with ancient tradition, the body of the Mother of God had been taken to heaven upon her death, and he expressed surprise that the Empress was unaware of this fact (implying that it must have been more or less common knowledge in the Church at the time).

Hope this helps!

[St_Thomas_Aquinas]

The position of head of the church is completely biblical, as Jesus Christ instituted it (Matthew 16:18).

Matthew 16:19 is parallel to Isaiah 22:22. Isaiah 22 refers to the office of the vice-regent of the Davidic kingdom, and the oversized key which the vice-regent wore around his neck, symbolizing his plenary authority in the king's absence.

Jesus is the King of the eternal House of David. (Rev. 3:7) In Matthew 16:19, Jesus gives the "key of the kingdom" to Peter.

[Gamecock]

Straining at the eye of a gnat doesn't make it so.

There are plenty of passages in Scripture that Time ignores or denies so I wouldn't wretch my shoulder patting myself on the back too hard if I was you.

[SpirituTuo]

So, the argument was that certain things were biblical. I provided biblical evidence. I also provided outside sources.

You have been led to the water of truth. All you have to do is drink.

[metmom]

They're in schism but in communion.

Well, that's not what your church says.....

There have been more than enough papal pronouncements about the Orthodox.

Here are some from your church.

Pope Leo XIII, Satis Cognitum (# 9): "The practice of the Church has always been the same, as is shown by the unanimous teaching of the Fathers, who were wont to hold as outside Catholic communion, and alien to the Church, whoever would recede in the least degree from any point of doctrine proposed by her authoritative Magisterium." Satis Cognitum (# 9): June 29, 1896:
http://www.vatican.va/holy_father/leo_xiii/encyclicals/documents/hf_l-xiii_enc_29061896_satis-cognitum_en.html

Pius 9, Quanto Conficiamur Moerore: “Also well known is the Catholic teaching that no one can be saved outside the Catholic Church. Eternal salvation cannot be obtained by those who oppose the authority and statements of the same Church and are stubbornly separated from the unity of the Church and also from the successor of Peter, the Roman Pontiff..”
-http://www.papalencyclicals.net/Pius09/p9quanto.htm

Pope Pius IX, Amantissimus: “There are other, almost countless, proofs drawn from the most trustworthy witnesses which clearly and openly testify with great faith, exactitude, respect and obedience that all who want to belong to the true and only Church of Christ must honor and obey this Apostolic See and Roman Pontiff." Pope Pius IX, Amantissimus (On The Care Of The Churches), Encyclical promulgated on April 8, 1862, # 3.
http://www.ewtn.com/library/ENCYC/P9AMANT2.HTM

Pope Pius IX (1846–1878), Encyclical Singulari Quidem March 17, 1856): “There is only one true, holy, Catholic Church, which is the Apostolic Roman Church. There is only one See founded on Peter by the word of the Lord, outside of which we cannot find either true faith or eternal salvation. He who does not have the Church for a mother cannot have God for a father, and whoever abandons the See of Peter on which the Church is established trusts falsely that he is in the Church. (On the Unity of the Catholic Church)
http://www.papalencyclicals.net/Pius09/p9singul.htm

Pope Pius XI, Mortalium Animos: Furthermore, in this one Church of Christ no man can be or remain who does not accept, recognize and obey the authority and supremacy of Peter and his legitimate successors. Did not the ancestors of those who are now entangled in the errors of Photius [the eastern “Orthodox” schismatics] and the reformers, obey the Bishop of Rome, the chief shepherd of souls?...Let none delude himself with obstinate wrangling. For life and salvation are here concerned...” Pope Pius XI, Mortalium Animos, PTC:873) The Promotion of True Religious Unity), 11, Encyclical promulgated on January 6, 1928, #11;
http://www.vatican.va/holy_father/pius_xi/encyclicals/documents/hf_p-xi_enc_19280106_mortalium-animos_en.html

Fifth Lateran Council: Moreover, since subjection to the Roman pontiff is necessary for salvation for all Christ's faithful, as we are taught by the testimony of both sacred scripture and the holy fathers, and as is declared by the constitution of pope Boniface VIII of happy memory, also our predecessor, which begins Unam sanctam, we therefore...renew and give our approval to that constitution... Fifth Lateran CouncilSession 11, 19 December 1516,
http://www.piar.hu/councils/ecum18.htm

Pope Innocent III and Lateran Council IV (A.D. 1215) [considered infallible by some]

Therefore, if anyone says that it is not by the institution of Christ the lord himself (that is to say, by divine law) that blessed Peter should have perpetual successors in the primacy over the whole Church; or that the Roman Pontiff is not the successor of blessed Peter in this primacy: let him be anathema. — Vatican 1, Ses. 4, Cp. 1

The COUNCIL OF CONSTANCE under Pope John XXIII condemned the proposition of Wycliff that “It is not necessary for salvation to believe that the Roman church is supreme among the other churches.” [inasmuch as it would deny the primacy of the supreme pontiff over the other individual churches.] — Session 8—4 May 1415;
http://www.ewtn.com/library/COUNCILS/CONSTANC.HTM

St. Thomas Aquinas: It is also shown that to be subject to the Roman Pontiff is necessary for salvation. For Cyril says in his Thesaurus: “Therefore, brethren, if we imitate Christ so as to hear his voice remaining in the Church of Peter and so as not be puffed up by the wind of pride, lest perhaps because of our quarrelling the wily serpent drive us from paradise as once he did Eve.” And Maximus in the letter addressed to the Orientals [Greeks] says: “The Church united and established upon the rock of Peter’s confession we call according to the decree of the Savior the universal Church, wherein we must remain for the salvation of our souls and wherein loyal to his faith and confession we must obey him.” — St. Thomas Aquinas, Against the Errors of the Greeks, Pt. 2, ch. 36
http://dhspriory.org/thomas/ContraErrGraecorum.htm#b38

St. Ambrose, "Expl. of Luke: "The Lord severed the Jewish people from His kingdom, and heretics and schismatics are also severed from the kingdom of God and from the Church. Our Lord makes it perfectly clear that every assembly of heretics and schismatics belongs not to God, but to the unclean spirit." — St. Ambrose, "Expl. of Luke", ch.7, 91-95; PL 15; SS, vol. II, p. 85, (quoted in The Apostolic Digest, by Michael Malone, Book 4: "The Book of Christians", Chapter 2: "Those Who Reject Christ's Church are Anti-Christian").http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Troy/6480/catholics/apostolic4chp2.html

Pope Boniface VIII, Bull Unam sanctam (1302): "We are compelled in virtue of our faith to believe and maintain that there is only one holy Catholic Church, and that one is apostolic. This we firmly believe and profess without qualification. Outside this Church there is no salvation and no remission of sins, the Spouse in the Canticle proclaiming: 'One is my dove, my perfect one. One is she of her mother, the chosen of her that bore her' (Canticle of Canticles 6:8); which represents the one mystical body whose head is Christ, of Christ indeed, as God. And in this, 'one Lord, one faith, one baptism' (Ephesians 4:5). Certainly Noah had one ark at the time of the flood, prefiguring one Church which perfect to one cubit having one ruler and guide, namely Noah, outside of which we read all living things were destroyed… We declare, say, define, and pronounce that it is absolutely necessary for the salvation of every human creature to be subject to the Roman Pontiff."

Pope Boniface VIII, Unam Sanctam (Promulgated November 18, 1302) "If, therefore, the Greeks or others say that they are not committed to Peter and to his successors, they necessarily say that they are not of the sheep of Christ, since the Lord says that there is only one fold and one shepherd (Jn.10:16). Whoever, therefore, resists this authority, resists the command of God Himself. " http://www.fordham.edu/halsall/source/b8-unam.html

Pope Eugene IV, Cantate Domino (1441): "The most Holy Roman Church firmly believes, professes and preaches that none of those existing outside the Catholic Church, not only pagans, but also Jews and heretics and schismatics, can have a share in life eternal; but that they will go into the "eternal fire which was prepared for the devil and his angels" (Matthew 25:41), unless before death they are joined with Her; and that so important is the unity of this ecclesiastical body that only those remaining within this unity can profit by the sacraments of the Church unto salvation, and they alone can receive an eternal recompense for their fasts, their almsgivings, their other works of Christian piety and the duties of a Christian soldier. No one, let his almsgiving be as great as it may, no one, even if he pour out his blood for the Name of Christ, can be saved, unless he remain within the bosom and the unity of the Catholic Church."

Pope Eugene IV and the Council of Florence: "The sacrosanct Roman Church...firmly believes, professes, and proclaims that..not only pagans, but also Jews and heretics and schismatics cannot become participants in eternal life but will depart `into everlasting fire...unless before the end of life the same have been added to the flock; and that..no one, whatever almsgiving he has practiced, even if he has shed blood for the name of Christ, can be saved, unless he has remained in the bosom and unity of the Catholic Church.”— Pope Eugene IV and the Council of Florence (Seventeenth Ecumenical Council), Cantate Domino, Bull promulgated on February 4, 1441 (Florentine style), [considered infallible by some]

[SpirituTuo]

Thanks for the cut and paste. Too bad none of it is from the 19th century or forward.

A quick note, Pope St. John XXIII died in 1963, so clearly was not at the Council of Constance.

Perhaps you should read the Joint Catholic-Orthodox Declaration of His Holiness Pope Paul VI and the Ecumenical Patriarch Athenagoras I, jointly delivered on December 7, 1965.

It removes the excommunications put on each other. (http://www.vatican.va/holy_father/paul_vi/speeches/1965/documents/hf_p-vi_spe_19651207_common-declaration_en.html)

You should also consider reading the mountains of material about the unification efforts.

[metmom]

So the Catholic church does change after all, eh?

And here Catholics keep telling me it doesn’t.

So who’s right?

[SpirituTuo]

Nice straw man. Try again.

Nobody on this thread said it was unchanging.

[Explorer89]

Was I named for her based on this story? No, my mother knew her cause for sainthood nearly 50 years ago, and named me then....