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To: delchiante
Remember the Sabbath. We can’t if we don’t know where or when it is...

How are you sure that YOU have the correct Sabbath?

Where is there a calendar that has been keep continually from the first week of creation until now?

So what exactly, is the big deal with the big focus on the calendar?

Do you think that people who don't keep your idea of what the calendar should be are saved?

Do you think that God is more pleased with them if they do?

That they are more righteous or holy?

What exactly is the point of keeping your calendar?

Colossians 2:16-17 Therefore let no one pass judgment on you in questions of food and drink, or with regard to a festival or a new moon or a Sabbath. These are a shadow of the things to come, but the substance belongs to Christ.

Romans 14:1-9 As for the one who is weak in faith, welcome him, but not to quarrel over opinions. One person believes he may eat anything, while the weak person eats only vegetables. Let not the one who eats despise the one who abstains, and let not the one who abstains pass judgment on the one who eats, for God has welcomed him. Who are you to pass judgment on the servant of another? It is before his own master that he stands or falls. And he will be upheld, for the Lord is able to make him stand.

One person esteems one day as better than another, while another esteems all days alike. Each one should be fully convinced in his own mind. The one who observes the day, observes it in honor of the Lord. The one who eats, eats in honor of the Lord, since he gives thanks to God, while the one who abstains, abstains in honor of the Lord and gives thanks to God. For none of us lives to himself, and none of us dies to himself. For if we live, we live to the Lord, and if we die, we die to the Lord. So then, whether we live or whether we die, we are the Lord's. For to this end Christ died and lived again, that he might be Lord both of the dead and of the living.

Acts 15:22-29 Then it seemed good to the apostles and the elders, with the whole church, to choose men from among them and send them to Antioch with Paul and Barnabas. They sent Judas called Barsabbas, and Silas, leading men among the brothers, with the following letter: “The brothers, both the apostles and the elders, to the brothers who are of the Gentiles in Antioch and Syria and Cilicia, greetings. Since we have heard that some persons have gone out from us and troubled you with words, unsettling your minds, although we gave them no instructions, it has seemed good to us, having come to one accord, to choose men and send them to you with our beloved Barnabas and Paul, men who have risked their lives for the name of our Lord Jesus Christ. We have therefore sent Judas and Silas, who themselves will tell you the same things by word of mouth. For it has seemed good to the Holy Spirit and to us to lay on you no greater burden than these requirements: that you abstain from what has been sacrificed to idols, and from blood, and from what has been strangled, and from sexual immorality. If you keep yourselves from these, you will do well. Farewell.”

250 posted on 09/12/2014 11:21:11 AM PDT by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
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To: metmom

The whole point is found in revelation;

Revelation 14:12 Here is the patience of the Saints, here are they that Keep the commandments of YHWH AND the faith of Yahshua..

Paul was an observant Sabbath keeper. He taught on that day.The Messiah did too. the first century church knew not this man Jesus.. the letter J is not even 2000 years old.
They may have known of rituals associated with holy days of December 25 and easter as there are worship practices that predate Christianity in places like Babylon that we see today..

The calendar is one piece of a very subtle counterfeit. It goes to the core of when one works, when one worships. It goes to what one believes and follows.
And scripture is not our guide for when we worship and when we work.
The Greco Roman latin world, led by the pope, sets the premise and the rules when the world lives and worships...

How can one say that? A day in scripture doesn’t end at 11:59.PM, nor start at 12:00 AM..
A year in scripture doesnt end in December or start in January.(winter)

Maybe instead of calling it the pope’s calendar, I suggest using a word the first reformers had no problem using to describe the papacy -so, we could say the world is run on the antichrist’s calendar..

The Greco roman Latin world has taken a Hebrew themed and Hebrew central book and whitewashed the Hebrew-ness out of it and turned the Messiah of Israel into a Greco roman Latin savior.

A greco roman latin savior that has a greco roman latin counterfeit birthday, greco roman latin counterfeit holy days associated with his life that fit only within the greco roman latin construct. They are not biblical. The only thing ‘biblical’ is the words and the transliterated name Jesus and even that can be shown to be a substitute on the testimony of two scripture verse witnesses.

Scripture says counterfeits would come. Pseudo Christos, pseudo prophets, pseudo teachers...
It could be people are expecting an ‘anti’ messiah to be so opposed to the real genuine that one can’t help to see it-
A study of that Greek word ‘anti’ isn’t nearly as clean as the world has it today.
A good example of that is Strategos and antistrategos- Greek words that can mean an enemy to the general without or an enemy of the general within his own ranks- even his second in command..

Considering we have scripture that confirms the antichrist can come from ‘within’ (1 John 2:19), it sort of looks like the first reformers were on the right track..

If we all worship a counterfeit, is that Truth? Someone can counterfeit some money and go to an ignorant clerk and get it redeemed for good and services at a store or place of business.

Maybe spiritual harlotry is all Christianity is in the end..
Rahab the harlot might be our best example - she had faith in who the Elohim of Israel is.. she hid the messengers just like Christianity has. and the good news is she was ‘saved’ out of her Babylon, but scripture says her and her family lived outside the camp of Israel..

If Jericho is a picture of the coming fall of Babylon, those clinging back then to Babylon were destroyed.

Maybe all of Christendom, Catholic/protestants will be all ‘saved’ and the fights over doctrine here are just silly wastes of time.

Or protestants spend too much time accepting the Antichrist’s false premise, false messiah, false holy days, false teachings as starting points and argue the fringe..

I don’t have any problem clumping Christianity, all of it, together today...Joel osteen, billy graham, the pope, etc..

If one starts with a false premise, the arguments and teachings never lead to Truth...

Only He knows in the end.. I just know that I love Him. Not the world...and I see this world as one big counterfeit.
And He has called me out of the world..
I am happy to be out of Babylon..
I certainly don’t want to be defending it when the trumpets sound...


254 posted on 09/13/2014 7:13:53 AM PDT by delchiante
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