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To: metmom

The whole point is found in revelation;

Revelation 14:12 Here is the patience of the Saints, here are they that Keep the commandments of YHWH AND the faith of Yahshua..

Paul was an observant Sabbath keeper. He taught on that day.The Messiah did too. the first century church knew not this man Jesus.. the letter J is not even 2000 years old.
They may have known of rituals associated with holy days of December 25 and easter as there are worship practices that predate Christianity in places like Babylon that we see today..

The calendar is one piece of a very subtle counterfeit. It goes to the core of when one works, when one worships. It goes to what one believes and follows.
And scripture is not our guide for when we worship and when we work.
The Greco Roman latin world, led by the pope, sets the premise and the rules when the world lives and worships...

How can one say that? A day in scripture doesn’t end at 11:59.PM, nor start at 12:00 AM..
A year in scripture doesnt end in December or start in January.(winter)

Maybe instead of calling it the pope’s calendar, I suggest using a word the first reformers had no problem using to describe the papacy -so, we could say the world is run on the antichrist’s calendar..

The Greco roman Latin world has taken a Hebrew themed and Hebrew central book and whitewashed the Hebrew-ness out of it and turned the Messiah of Israel into a Greco roman Latin savior.

A greco roman latin savior that has a greco roman latin counterfeit birthday, greco roman latin counterfeit holy days associated with his life that fit only within the greco roman latin construct. They are not biblical. The only thing ‘biblical’ is the words and the transliterated name Jesus and even that can be shown to be a substitute on the testimony of two scripture verse witnesses.

Scripture says counterfeits would come. Pseudo Christos, pseudo prophets, pseudo teachers...
It could be people are expecting an ‘anti’ messiah to be so opposed to the real genuine that one can’t help to see it-
A study of that Greek word ‘anti’ isn’t nearly as clean as the world has it today.
A good example of that is Strategos and antistrategos- Greek words that can mean an enemy to the general without or an enemy of the general within his own ranks- even his second in command..

Considering we have scripture that confirms the antichrist can come from ‘within’ (1 John 2:19), it sort of looks like the first reformers were on the right track..

If we all worship a counterfeit, is that Truth? Someone can counterfeit some money and go to an ignorant clerk and get it redeemed for good and services at a store or place of business.

Maybe spiritual harlotry is all Christianity is in the end..
Rahab the harlot might be our best example - she had faith in who the Elohim of Israel is.. she hid the messengers just like Christianity has. and the good news is she was ‘saved’ out of her Babylon, but scripture says her and her family lived outside the camp of Israel..

If Jericho is a picture of the coming fall of Babylon, those clinging back then to Babylon were destroyed.

Maybe all of Christendom, Catholic/protestants will be all ‘saved’ and the fights over doctrine here are just silly wastes of time.

Or protestants spend too much time accepting the Antichrist’s false premise, false messiah, false holy days, false teachings as starting points and argue the fringe..

I don’t have any problem clumping Christianity, all of it, together today...Joel osteen, billy graham, the pope, etc..

If one starts with a false premise, the arguments and teachings never lead to Truth...

Only He knows in the end.. I just know that I love Him. Not the world...and I see this world as one big counterfeit.
And He has called me out of the world..
I am happy to be out of Babylon..
I certainly don’t want to be defending it when the trumpets sound...


254 posted on 09/13/2014 7:13:53 AM PDT by delchiante
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To: delchiante

That didn’t answer any of my questions.

I’ve seen all your rationale before.

Try answering the questions.

Is someone who doesn’t keep the calendar that you think they should keep saved or not?

How do you know that the Sabbath that you propose is really the one that is the true one?

Are you presuming it’s Saturday? How do you know that it’s not what day we call Tuesday? Or Thursday?

Or maybe, even Sunday after all?


255 posted on 09/13/2014 9:34:30 AM PDT by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
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To: delchiante

What day of the week do you claim is the TRUE Sabbath and why?


256 posted on 09/13/2014 9:35:16 AM PDT by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
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