Honest to God I cannot see the reason for such vitriol flung at her. And I’m not an Osteen fan! I just wish Christians could just get a life and QUIT attacking each other! C.S. Lewis (that blasphemous idiotic fool) if you remember, said, “Prayer doesn’t change God, it changes us”, why he sounds absolutely narcissistic! Quit picking each other apart for gosh sakes! Use your power of context and think before you whine and complain. There are bigger fish to fry than the Osteen woman.
And you just picked apart a fellow Christian - the great C.S. Lewis!
***There are bigger fish to fry than the Osteen woman.***
She is one of the most recognizable heretics out there. Who pray tell is “bigger?”
In a nutshell;
Lewis: God changes us.
Osteen: God owes us.
Quite a difference.
The CS Lewis quote sounds like God wants us to conform to Him, which is the opposite of narcissistic. It says prayer is about achieving GOD’S will, not ours.
There is enough room in the frying pan for the Osteens to fit in...
Amen hulagirl.
A couple of things I do know -
1) the Osteen ministry has been raised up by God to help restore joy to many of God’s people who so desperately need more joy
2) Satan hates joyful, victorious Christians because they are the only danger to his kingdom in influencing others towards God. Defeated, depressed, angry Christians are no threat to Satan whatsoever and can actually help him in attacking victorious, joyful Christians.
Therefore, Satan attacks Joel and Victoria with great intensity. But God has given them great grace, however, to stay in peace and faith and not let others steal their joy. They are a wonderful example to me of winning the battle for the mind.
Today’s devotion is a good example:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-religion/3199820/posts
Honest to God I cannot see the reason for such vitriol flung at her.
She was encouraging selfishness it sounded like
Honest to God I cannot see the reason for such vitriol flung at her. And I’m not an Osteen fan! I just wish Christians could just get a life and QUIT attacking each other!
The money exchangers are all over the place, that is what they were called in the days of Jesus, I think whores and pimps is a much more suitable word for people who gets rich from the gospel.
Would a real believer sell the Gospel or would they give it away just like Jesus and his apostles did?
what does any one need the books for unless they want a Gospel that can not be found in the Bible?
I can see a non believer who wants to believe something buying one of these books but I can not see a real believer selling one.
“There are bigger fish to fry than the Osteen woman.”
Not so, if the ‘Osteen woman’ is teaching blasphemous stuff. The ‘feel good’ gospel of many of these megachurches is designed to bring in members to support their (the pastor’s etc) life style. Such as that of the Osteen’s, who live in a 10.5 million dollar mansion. It has nothing to do with a real relationship with our God.
God came down and walked with Adam in the Garden in the cool of he day.
It says of Enoch and of Noah that they walked with God. God seeks companionship from men, us, his creation. He sought it with Adam. He got it with Enoch and with Noah.
He wants it with each of us. Companionship...