Victoria Osteen Ripped for Telling Church 'Just Do Good For Your Own Self'; Worship Is Not for God.'

Christian Post ^ | 08/30/2014 | Leonardo Blair

[SeekAndFind]

Victoria Osteen, wife of megachurch preacher and New York Times bestselling author Joel Osteen, is now facing withering criticism online for a viral video clip in which she is shown telling congregants at Lakewood Church that obedience, worship and church attendance is not for God but themselves.

"I just want to encourage every one of us to realize when we obey God, we're not doing it for God—I mean, that's one way to look at it—we're doing it for ourselves, because God takes pleasure when we're happy," she said in the 36-second clip posted on YouTube, with her husband smiling at her side in approval. "That's the thing that gives Him the greatest joy…"

"So, I want you to know this morning: Just do good for your own self. Do good because God wants you to be happy," she continued. "When you come to church, when you worship Him, you're not doing it for God really. You're doing it for yourself, because that's what makes God happy. Amen?" the clip ended as congregants cheered.

Erick Erickson, politicly conservative blogger and editor-in-chief of the blog site RedState.com, summed up his reaction to Mrs. Osteen's pronouncement in a quote from the 1995 movie "Billy Madison."

"What you've just said is one of the most insanely, idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent, response, were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it. May God have mercy on your soul," it ended.

[Doctor 2Brains]

for later

[Ken522]

Victoria is going off the rails - she is advocating heresy ...

[Big Red Badger]

,,much later.

[Snickering Hound]

Vicky says lots of things when she's not cussing out 1st class flight attendants.

[ravenwolf]

That is why women should just keep their mouth shut, they can catch their foot in it so easy.

[MamaB]

That is when I quit paying any attention to her. Neve cared for her husband from the beginning.

[DariusBane]

What, Joel is wise?

Come on that is a stupid thing to say.

[corlorde]

Yeah, I’m not a fan either.

[GeronL]

Nothing she said was out of line of her husbands preaching

[Revelation Concepts]

Not surprising since her husband is a motivational speaker and not a bible teacher.

[TexasFreeper2009]

I don't get what's wrong with what she said?

It all made complete sense to me.

I would argue that following the teachings of the bible will lead to a more fulfilling, longer, happier, wealthier, and healthier life.

So, just as she said when we follow God's teachings we are directly benefiting ourselves, just as when we disobey God we are hurting ourselves either in the short or long term

I would also agree that Church attendance directly benefits those who participate, by refilling our tank and allowing us to get positive feedback through socializing with others also attempting to live a God centered life.

[Lazamataz]

Shes got crazy eyes.

[montag813]

This is why those "Joel Osteen [DEVOTIONAL]" posts should be banned at FR. Enough already. It was bad enough when this fraud endorsed Lesbian Anise Parker for Houston mayor, so he could get his new mega church zoning approved (and she is now wreaking havoc on Christian values with her "Bathroom Bill"). But now his psychopathic wife is revealing how truly devoid of Christ is their materialistic doctrine.

Please FR, no more Osteen "DEVOTIONALS". It's as antithetical to our values as a 'Daily Obama' post.

[Steelfish]

If so much as a single member of the Osteen “congregation” had the IQ of a cactus they would have left him a long, log time ago. No worries, They’ll now “explain” themselves away and the idiots will fall in line.

[prisoner6]

I agree.

[laweeks]

Although I think she’s beautiful, I think that she and her hubby are worthless as far as preachers of anything. Joel Osteen bores me.

[MeshugeMikey]

May God handle the ohsteeens and their churchiantiy empire soon

[GBA]

In high school, a teacher for one of my classes told us that there is no such thing as "altruism", that every altruistic act is selfish, as the doer gets something for it.

Other than Jesus, probably Mary and perhaps some selfless acts of bravery and courage, I've never been able to find an exception to his statement.

There is a reward for the altruism, he said, and that means it's not altruistic, but comes from a self centered motivation instead, however noble or saintly the act or motivation may be.

[Linda Frances]

That is why women should just keep their mouth shut, they can catch their foot in it so easy.

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You mean your wife, daughter, mom, Freepers like me?

I don’t care for the Osteens teachings.