“Pope John Paul II kissed the ring that Pope Paul VI had given to the the faux bishop, Michael Ramsey; thus recognizing both Rowan Williams and Ramseys validorders.”
Nope. He may have kissed the ring but that doesn’t mean he recognized their orders. Again, this is the same pope who kissed the Qur’an.
“It wasnt an anglican ring!”
You need to learn to read more carefully. I said “Anglican’s ring” not “anglican ring”. It was on an Anglican’s hand.
“It was a Catholic episcopal ring given by Pope Paul VI to the heretic, Michael Ramsey.”
Which tells us exactly nothing about what Paul VI thought of Anglican orders.
Nice try. You failed again.
It tells us that, unlike the pre-Vatican II popes, Popes Paul VI, Pope Benedict and Pope Francis have recognized Anglican orders as being valid.
Why else would each one them present either an episcopal ring or pectoral cross to a heretic?
>>It was a Catholic episcopal ring given by Pope Paul VI to the heretic, Michael Ramsey.<<
>>Which tells us exactly nothing about what Paul VI thought of Anglican orders.<<
Do you know what an episcopal ring or pectoral cross represents?
I don’t think you do.
The collective name given for convenience sake to those insignia of the episcopal order which of right are worn by bishops alone. In its broader sense the term may be taken to include all the items of attire proper to bishops, even those belonging to their civil or choir dress, for example the cappa magna, or the hat with its green cord and lining. But more strictly and accurately, rubricians limit the pontificals to those ornaments which a prelate wears in celebrating pontifically. The pontificals common to all are enumerated by Pius VII in his constitution "Decet Romanos" (4 July, 1823), and are eight in number: buskins, sandals, gloves, dalmatic, tunicle, ring, pectoral cross, and mitre.
"Bishops alone".
It was a Catholic episcopal ring on a heretic's finger.