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To: af_vet_1981; aMorePerfectUnion
While your analysis sounds good it is woefully flawed. Paul was not appointed by Peter. He was appointed by Christ and baptized by Ananias who, btw, wasn't to keen on Paul. In fact, scripture teaches that the apostles, while playing an important part in spreading the word of God, they sometimes were playing catch-up:

Then there is the first council, the Jerusalem Council, which was under the control of James-not Peter. John, being the last apostle wasn't even named "Pope". And Paul stood up to the error of Peter in Galatians-not something one would think of doing if they were submitting to the Church. Finally, the churches of Revelation are addressed separately. If there was "one" church, there would be only one church addressed.

Sorry but there is nothing in scripture that supports your view.

186 posted on 07/26/2014 5:55:18 PM PDT by HarleyD ("... letters are weighty, but his .. presence is weak, and his speech of no account.")
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To: HarleyD
While your analysis sounds good it is woefully flawed. Paul was not appointed by Peter. He was appointed by Christ and baptized by Ananias who, btw, wasn't to keen on Paul.

Paul was different, as he attests here. The apostles did not select him. He was selected by the LORD, like they were, but out of season, as an original Apostle, as it were. He was not replacing anyone.

For I delivered unto you first of all that which I also received, how that Christ died for our sins according to the scriptures; 4And that he was buried, and that he rose again the third day according to the scriptures: 5And that he was seen of Cephas, then of the twelve: 6After that, he was seen of above five hundred brethren at once; of whom the greater part remain unto this present, but some are fallen asleep. 7After that, he was seen of James; then of all the apostles. 8And last of all he was seen of me also, as of one born out of due time. 9For I am the least of the apostles, that am not meet to be called an apostle, because I persecuted the church of God.

Then there is the first council, the Jerusalem Council, which was under the control of James-not Peter.

Peter was the overall chief servant apostle of the holy catholic apostolic church, ie., all its churches. And whosoever of you will be the chiefest, shall be servant of all. . James was an apostle and the bishop of the church at Jerusalem where the council was held. Simon Peter rose up and made the decision that halted the debate. In the silence that followed his pronouncement, James agreed and gave his judgement and sentence on how to implement it. The apostles were all in apostolic unity and the decision is binding on the Gentiles who believe today.

John, being the last apostle wasn't even named "Pope".

John did not succeed Peter as bishop of Rome, where the head of the holy apostolic church moved after the scattering of the church at Jerusalem and the destruction of Jerusalem. The title "Pope" only applied to the bishop of Rome.

And Paul stood up to the error of Peter in Galatians-not something one would think of doing if they were submitting to the Church.

I think we have a very different view as to what "submitting to the Church" means. There was a Jewish cardinal of France who stood up to blessed John Paul II as well; Paul did not deny any apostolic doctrine, he addressed appearance and behavior.

Finally, the churches of Revelation are addressed separately. If there was "one" church, there would be only one church addressed. Sorry but there is nothing in scripture that supports your view.

Now therefore ye are no more strangers and foreigners, but fellowcitizens with the saints, and of the household of God; 20 And are built upon the foundation of the apostles and prophets, Jesus Christ himself being the chief corner stone; 21 In whom all the building fitly framed together groweth unto an holy temple in the Lord: 22 In whom ye also are builded together for an habitation of God through the Spirit.

There is one body, and one Spirit, even as ye are called in one hope of your calling; 5 One Lord, one faith, one baptism, 6 One God and Father of all, who is above all, and through all, and in you all.

For I say, through the grace given unto me, to every man that is among you, not to think of himself more highly than he ought to think; but to think soberly, according as God hath dealt to every man the measure of faith. 4 For as we have many members in one body, and all members have not the same office: 5 So we, being many, are one body in Christ, and every one members one of another.

198 posted on 07/26/2014 6:51:08 PM PDT by af_vet_1981 (The bus came by and I got on, That's when it all began)
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