Posted on 07/22/2014 2:22:53 PM PDT by Faith Presses On
Jesus certainly was not a Bible believer, as we use that term in the post Billy Graham era of American fundamentalist religiosity thats used as a trade-marked product to sell religion. Jesus didnt take the Jewish scriptures at face value. In fundamentalist terms, Jesus was a rule-breaking relativist who wasnt even saved, according to evangelical standards. Evangelicals insist that you have to believe very specific interpretations of the Bible to be saved. Jesus didnt. He undercut the scriptures.
A leper came to Jesus and said, Lord, if you choose, you can make me clean. If Jesus had been a good religious Jew, he would have said, Be healed, and just walked away. Instead, he stretched out his hand and touched the leper, saying, I do choose. Be made clean, even though he was breaking the specific rules of Leviticus. Two chapters teach that anyone touching a person with leprosy is contaminated.
The stories about Jesus that survived the bigots, opportunists and delusional fanatics who wrote the New Testament contain powerful and enlightened truths that would someday prove the undoing of the Church built in his name. Like a futurist vindicated by events as yet undreamed, Jesus message of love was far more powerful than the magical thinking of the writers of the book hes trapped in. In Jesus day the institutions of religion, state, misogyny and myth were so deeply ingrained that the ultimate dangerousness of his life example could not be imagined. For example his feminism, probably viewed as an eccentricity in his day, would prove transformational.
Jesus believed in God rather than in a book about God. The message of Jesus life is an intervention in and an acceleration of the evolution of empathy...
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That's willful ignorance...
This scripture has been posted to you several times...
Joh 5:24 Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that heareth my word, and believeth on him that sent me, hath everlasting life, and shall not come into condemnation; but is passed from death unto life.
Jesus says we HAVE everlasting life, right now, and will NOT come into condemnation...
If you worship the false Christ when he appears, you are in deep do do. Salvation is out the door. That is the context of the story.
No I won’t go there. I want you on record.
Here's an FE R thread.
Seriously? Where does it say Catholics pray to people in hell?
If you read the bible carfully, there isn't a Hell yet. That will take place after the great White Throne Judgment.
So, what about Pelosi, Biden, and all the other ‘Catholic’ abortionists out there, Salvation? Is there a ‘burning in hell’ especially designated for them? Does their sactioning murder via legislation and in their political dogma exempt them from eternal punishment?
Bought any fresh mushrooms from a local picker lately?
Deep do do I fear. They will go up like spit on a hot stove when their time runs out.
How is that relevant to my asking Iscool to source his allegations that Catholics pray to people?
I doubt that. Can you give me chapter and verse on that?
It didn't take you long to misquote him, did it?
Can you give me chapter and verse on that?
This punishment may be just for temple scrolls. I forgot. It is a historical practice. They were so afraid of changing a “jot or tittle” that they went to extreme measures.
UMM...Jesus was God and therefore knew all the answers to everything.
the Catholic church is the ONLY true source of biblical interpretation.. The groups that spang up in the 1500's and 1600's, and since, can only misinterpret what the Catholics had been teaching for 2,014 and more years.
oh good grief...
What? you don't pray to St. Christopher to keep you from getting a flat tire when you are driving down the road...
I get it from Catholics...There are numerous examples on the internet where there are prayers written by Catholics to Mary and the numerous Saints...Some of them have been posted on FR many times...
Not true...The bible could be your friend...
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