California pastor, 2 others admit they tortured 13-year-old, forced him to dig own grave

nydailynews.com ^ | July 8, 2014 | Philip Caulfield

[Berlin_Freeper]

The thuggish pastor of a small Southern California church and two of his parishioners tortured a 13-year-old boy who lived at a church-run group home, savagely beating him, grinding salt into his raw wounds and forcing him to dig his own grave.

The pastor, Lonny Remmers, 56, and his two goons even tortured the teen during a group Bible study session, forcing him to sit in front of the others while they twisted his nipples with pliers, court documents show, according to the Los Angeles Times.

[Jeff Chandler]

If only Fire Escape Ministries/Re-Entry Foundation preachers were allowed to get married . . .

[Dusty Road]

My church is the ranch and God rides shot gun with me daily, he knows everything I know and has seen everything I’ve seen. There’s not a single part of my life he’s not aware of. One thing I do know about God is he don’t fix flats and he don’t open gates, I’m driving this truck and those are my responsibilities.

[lostboy61]

I once did a kitchen remodel for a pastor in WA. state. On my fourth and final draw he had taken out ten percent off the total bill. He said that was my tithe to his church. I told him it didn't work that way as I was not a member of his church as I handed back the check. It's that or nothing was his reply. I put a mechanics lean on the property and he told me he did not care as he would never sell the property. The next day I sat down with the banker that held the first on the property and made a very good bid to buy the note. The banker called him and told him I was buying his note the next day and would demand him pay off the note and any leans. He called me up and called me everything he could put his tongue to but paid the bill plus 1/2 again the bill. Last thing he said was I was a Jew bastard as he gave me a bank check. I would rather work for a whore than a pastor as they know what it's like to get screwed.

[lostboy61]

I once did a kitchen remodel for a pastor in WA. state. On my fourth and final draw he had taken out ten percent off the total bill. He said that was my tithe to his church. I told him it didn't work that way as I was not a member of his church as I handed back the check. It's that or nothing was his reply. I put a mechanics lean on the property and he told me he did not care as he would never sell the property. The next day I sat down with the banker that held the first on the property and made a very good bid to buy the note. The banker called him and told him I was buying his note the next day and would demand him pay off the note and any leans. He called me up and called me everything he could put his tongue to but paid the bill plus 1/2 again the bill. Last thing he said was I was a Jew bastard as he gave me a bank check. I would rather work for a whore than a pastor as they know what it's like to get screwed.

[Foundahardheadedwoman]

I used to raise cattle and loved it easiest and most peaceful job I ever had.

Years ago my church was a golf course, I most often played alone because I could not stand the cursing that often accompanied a bad shot.

For some reason I always viewed golf as a mental and spiritual game, overcoming the handicaps your own mind places in front of you, I never really understood the reason it felt like a spiritual journey as I walked around the course but I knew God had to have had a hand in some of my nutty shots that actually worked as planned. I will always remember the great shots and have already forgotten the bad ones. Sorta like life isn’t it, routine, often boring then the unexpected occurs and makes all the other stuff immaterial.

[onedoug]

Bump

[GSWarrior]

What is his Freeper screen name? (Just kidding.)

[metmom]

Time for an eye for an eye.

Then capital punishment.

They’re no better than any serial killer and deserve the same justice.

[metmom]

Sadly, it’s only going to get worse as the end times draws near.

Too many wolves fleecing the flock.

[metmom]

Throw away the key.

[Foundahardheadedwoman]

‘Too many wolves fleecing the flock.’

Wish it weren’t so true.

I now go to a small Baptist church and the backbitin and gossip is fierce. Seems they have never read the verse about you notice the speck in your brother’s eye but not the beam in your own.

I have less patience with this type stuff the older I get and would vent my real thoughts about this stuff but I figure as long as they come to church at least there is a chance they might hear the message. If I let loose they will run home and not return, I do not mince words and I am not a wussy Christian. And, yes, I am judgmental of people when I know I am right. When I get angry, which I am slow to do, my stop button does not work.

[Gamecock]

Special place in Hell…

[metmom]

I have less patience with this type stuff the older I get...

I hear you.