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Is There Growing Confusion over Church Teaching?
Crisis Magazine ^ | July 16, 2014 | Dr. William Oddie

Posted on 07/16/2014 4:18:13 AM PDT by NYer

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To: metmom
The world doesn’t *owe* Catholicism diddly.

It owes the Church their existence, free of the caliphate. That's what the world owes it. In much the same manner we would say, if not for the US we'd all be speaking German. Let us not show ingratitude to those who came before us and sacrified their life for our civilization.

...[a]nd GOD preserved HIS Scripture and is more than capable of doing it without the help of the Catholic church.

Yes. God preserved His Scripture through the Roman Catholic Church as He intended. Just as He intended that they be responsible for determining the Canon of Scripture and weeding out false gospels.

The RCC is God's work. Catholics take nothing away from God. This was His plan.

321 posted on 07/18/2014 9:26:46 PM PDT by JPX2011
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To: Karl Spooner
The thing is that what the Church says doesn’t mean diddy compared to what God says. We will never trust man.

It's a false protestant dichotomy to say that what is being said is two different things.

322 posted on 07/18/2014 9:29:24 PM PDT by JPX2011
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To: Salvation; Elsie; FourtySeven
**one can loose ** LOL! Is that like untied shoelaces?

Shouldn't you ping the person you are laughing at for a spelling error? (it wasn't Elsie) I mean being that you're such a stickler for that stuff and all.

323 posted on 07/18/2014 9:43:08 PM PDT by boatbums (God is ready to assume full responsibility for the life wholly yielded to Him.)
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To: Karl Spooner; Religion Moderator
The sooner you leave fantasy land - the better.

Why, that seems like a personal attack, wherever is the Religion Moderator?

Not that I particularly care about people making it personal with me most of the time but since I mentioned the RM I had to ping the RM.

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325 posted on 07/19/2014 2:29:41 AM PDT by Legatus (Either way, we're screwed.)
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To: metmom

Since when has a LOGICAL explanation EVER corrected an EMOTIONAL outburst in these C bvs P threads?


326 posted on 07/19/2014 2:56:49 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: af_vet_1981
you, at least, you have your soul imprinted so you know; the scripture does not derive its power from chapter and verse.

Another Catholic invention...

327 posted on 07/19/2014 2:57:50 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: defconw
So Thanks for shutting us down.

Strange; but you do not SOUND shut!

328 posted on 07/19/2014 2:58:55 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: boatbums; Salvation; Elsie
Shouldn't you ping the person you are laughing at for a spelling error? (it wasn't Elsie) I mean being that you're such a stickler for that stuff and all.

It's alright. I don't seem to ever be able to learn to spell that word correctly.

329 posted on 07/19/2014 2:59:02 AM PDT by FourtySeven (47)
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To: verga
It was an honest mistake and I admitted it.

Does this mean you'll not make the same 'mistake' in the future?

330 posted on 07/19/2014 2:59:44 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: defconw
It was OUR thread to begin with. You were allowed to hijack it.

Boo hoo.

Quit whining like a 3 year old and start a NEW one!

Then; if you play nice amoungst yerselves; the RM will not have to stand you in the corner for a timeout.

331 posted on 07/19/2014 3:01:15 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: BlatherNaut
“Therefore whosoever shall eat this bread, or drink the chalice of the Lord unworthily, shall be guilty of the body and of the blood of the Lord.”

HMMMmmm..

I wonder what THIS means...

332 posted on 07/19/2014 3:02:25 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: metmom
So they can't be blamed for it.

They sure CAN!!!

We've been doing it successfully (more or less) for CENTURIES!

--Catholic_Wannabe_Dude(Hail MARY!)

333 posted on 07/19/2014 3:03:54 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: verga
When I speak of anti-Catholic bigots that is referring to a certain select group of less than ten individuals.

And you do it in hushed tones so that you do not attract undue attention to yourself.



334 posted on 07/19/2014 3:13:45 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Elsie

Interesting you should ask that question.

It might also be profitable to ask it again in front of the Blessed Sacrament. Just a thought.


335 posted on 07/19/2014 3:17:56 AM PDT by FourtySeven (47)
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To: Zionist Conspirator
NYer--please begin a new caucused thread and warn all participants to not use it to attack other religions which are not present in the caucus.

Well; we COULD; but how we then gonna explain any CONFUSION??

It sure as HELL ain't ANY of us wonderfully catechized Catholics that caused it!!

So; I ask again: Who we gonna blame???



--Catholic_Wannabe_Dude(Hail Mary and it's ALIENS! - all the way down!!!)

336 posted on 07/19/2014 3:20:38 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: metmom
Not that there are that many Prot caucused threads, but then again, we're not so easily offended.

But when we are...


337 posted on 07/19/2014 3:21:44 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: metmom
They want the protection of caucus threads for themselves only and challenge others when they try to have their own.

At least the MORMONs have learned THEIR lesson!

338 posted on 07/19/2014 3:22:41 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Legatus; verga
And who exactly is "they"? List 'em. Of course you can't do that either because that would be making it personal.

Physician: heal thyself!!



When I speak of anti-Catholic bigots that is referring to a certain select group of less than ten individuals.


339 posted on 07/19/2014 3:24:03 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: JPX2011
The gospel according to Murray circa 1985 or whenever.

...vs...

The gospel according to Mary circa 985 or whenever.

340 posted on 07/19/2014 3:24:51 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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