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To: vladimir998
I’m siding with the truth. There’s no surprise there. You’re not. There’s no surprise there either.

I'm choosing not to be Catholic. You're taking my beliefs about the Church personally, mocking my reasons, and insulting me.

Of course in doing so you're supporting a lot of my reasons for not wanting to be like you. But I don't expect you to get that level of nuance. Nor do you understand that people who don't want to be Catholic don't in fact, diminish your personal faith. But you don't get that level of nuance, either.

I imagine you sitting at night guzzling wine out of a jewel-encrusted gold cup, the wind howling outside and shut off by heavy draperies, your thick velvet coat pulled up around your neck, while you mutter "heretics, damned heretics" as you slam the point of your dagger again and again into the table.


215 posted on 07/14/2014 3:44:38 PM PDT by Talisker (One who commands, must obey.)
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To: Talisker

LOL!!!


228 posted on 07/14/2014 4:09:52 PM PDT by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith...)
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To: Talisker

“I’m choosing not to be Catholic.”

Exactly.

“You’re taking my beliefs about the Church personally,”

Actually not at all.

“mocking my reasons,”

I don’t think you presented any reason that even approach reasonable. If I mocked what is unreasonable, so be it.

“and insulting me.”

Are you crying?

“Of course in doing so you’re supporting a lot of my reasons for not wanting to be like you.”

Don’t be like me. Whatever that means. But that should never stop you from embracing the truth in any case. I reject all false things because they are false not because of who does or does not hold what is false.

“But I don’t expect you to get that level of nuance.”

It isn’t that I don’t get “that level of nuance”. It’s that there is no nuance in your statement. Of course you’ll just claim that in itself is proof that I don’t get the nuance.

“Nor do you understand that people who don’t want to be Catholic don’t in fact, diminish your personal faith.”

Honestly you seem out of touch with reality. Truth is completely unaffected by opinion. I have NEVER, and I mean NEVER, assumed that my faith is diminished by anyone else’s opinion. No one else’s opinion affects my faith one way or the other. I have been with groups of Catholics - it in no way affected my faith in terms of my belief in it. I knew it was true beforehand and that didn’t change. And the same happened whenever I was surrounded by non-believers whether Protestants, atheists, agnostics, pagans, whatever.

“But you don’t get that level of nuance, either.”

Again, there is no nuance there - as shown by the fact that you’re not even getting what I believe right while making judgments based upon your erroneous conception of what I believe.

“I imagine you sitting at night guzzling wine out of a jewel-encrusted gold cup,”

I occasionally drink wine, but I never guzzle it and I have the usual glasses, no jewel-encrusted gold cups. I guess you’ll just say I’m missing the nuance when actually you’re just making up fantasy like things, right?

“the wind howling outside and shut off by heavy draperies,”

Wrong on both counts.

“your thick velvet coat pulled up around your neck, while you mutter “heretics, damned heretics” as you slam the point of your dagger again and again into the table.”

Wow. I think you’re the one guzzling wine. And I claim no nuance in that statement at all.


239 posted on 07/14/2014 4:32:01 PM PDT by vladimir998
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