Posted on 06/22/2014 2:42:07 PM PDT by NYer
I came in after a good nights sleep and posted all kinds of stuff to those dudes!
(Psst... I saw no 'ask' in the 'request'.)
SLC; here I come!
What'll it take to PLEASE you?
n this passage Paul defends himself and the other apostles against charges from a few disgruntled people. He says he is giving "my defense to those who would examine me" (1 Cor. 9:3). He talks about a situation that applies to himself, not just to the others, yet he certainly was not accompanied by his wife, since he had no wife. We know from other testimony of his that he was unmarried.
The key Greek words in 1 Corinthians 9:5 are adelphaen gunaika. The first means "sister," and the second can be translated as either "woman" or "wife." This means the phrase translates as "sister woman" or "sister wife," with "sister" indicating not a biological but a spiritual relationship. It would make sense for the apostles to be accompanied by "sister women" who could assist them in ministering to womenfor example, at full-immersion baptisms, where a question of modesty could arise, or in cases where it would be more appropriate for a woman to perform a charitable or catechetical function.
This finds support in the Fathers. "Sister woman" is found in Jeromes Vulgate, and Jerome (347-402 AD) wrote that "It is clear that [they] must not be seen as wives but, as we have said, as women who assisted [the apostles] with their goods" (Ad. Jovinian I, 26). Clement of Alexandria (150-215 AD) agreed, saying the women were not the wives of the apostles but were female assistants who could enter the homes of women and could teach them there (Stromata III, 6).
So much for Sola Scriptura.
Ask Roget for help...
Yeah...
...this happens a lot these days; too.
Oh, I dunno Elsie. How about your conversion to the One True Faith? Acceptance of Rome as the One, Holy, Catholic and Apostolic Church.
Only because I care for the state of your immortal soul.
Don't forget COUSIN!
Huh?
You use extraneous writings to disprove the Bible?
Cool!
You must think I'm not there now.
Could you list the additional things that I need to believe, on top of what I believe now, that would indicate a fullness you seem to detect that I now lack?
Jesus answered, The work of God is this: to believe in the one he has sent. Accept Rome as the One, Holy, Catholic and Apostolic Church."
That’s pretty good. You’ve got it down.
The term “mother in law” is not a legal term, it’s a descriptive one. Your point about “the law” being voided at death is irrelevant. Insert “wife’s mother” in there instead of mother in law. It’s perfectly reasonable to do so, as there isn’t any distinction in the Greek. Look it up in Strong’s, it’s G3994.
Yes Icool is right I erred when I implied they were at the mother in law’s (excuse me, wife’s mother’s) house when she was ill. They were at St. Peter’s house. That only bolsters what I’m saying though, and that is if his wife was alive she would have been the one to wait on them at her own house.
Sure it’s true it’s possible she, along with any other women there were simply not recorded in Scripture, as the passage was about St. Peter’s MIL and her miraculous cure.
But you guys (Protestants/anti-Catholic Christians) are always the ones telling us Catholics, “Don’t go beyond what’s written! Don’t add to Scripture!”
So fine. I’m not adding anything to Scripture. I’m just saying you can’t prove St. Peter had a (living) wife at the time he met Jesus, using Scripture alone.
If anything, this little exercise should demonstrate exactly the mental deficiency of the doctrine “sola scriptura” (as it’s actually practiced not the formal definition thereof)
JPX: Please tell me you’re not defending JPII kissing the Koran. There is NO GOOD, CATHOLIC reason for that. Period.
I have now skimmed through the rest of this thread and based on all of the deleted comments I see it went south.
What can you expect from a filthy Prot?
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