Posted on 06/15/2014 9:09:26 AM PDT by RegulatorCountry
Time magazine recently wrote a report on the rise of Latino evangelical churches in the U.S., calling their exponential growth "a signal of a new Reformation," even as they seem invisible to mainstream American culture. The report said Latino evangelicals are one of the fastest-growing segments of the churchgoing population, resulting from the conversion of millions of Spanish-speaking Catholics to Protestantism in the past few years.
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Furthermore, like I said above Protestant Hispanics, including Evangelicals, still identify over 50% as democrat/lean democrat (ie, much less conservative than white Catholics).
And Protestant Hispanics are what, a fourth of the total Hispanic population? Less than half of a fourth of 14% of the populace is hardly going to make or break conservatism.
I can hardly think of anything less worth rejoicing over.
I would like to see all my Spanish-speaking brothers and sisters living joy-filled lives in Jesucristo nuestro Senor. If some do so in Protestant congregations and others as Catholics ... well, everyone has different circumstances in their lives, and you end up where you do.
The important thing is to love God and love your neighbor.
I think we should be glad when anyone comes to a living, vital, real relationship with the Lord Jesus regardless of which church it occurs/-ed in. Hopefully, if the relationship is real, Christ through the Holy Spirit will lead them to where the “Living water” is. I know on fire Roman Catholics and dead Baptists and vis versa. There are enough luke warm so-called nominal Christians in both denominations and we don’t need any more of those. We all know we don’t need more priests molesting little boys and we don’t need any more Westboro Baptist type haters. No perfect church/denomination this side of eternity - sin has marred and scarred us all. Let’s rejoice in what the Lord is doing and where he chooses to bless as we sure need more real disciples. I have differences with the Catholic Church that’s why I’m not Catholic. But I know many Catholics that are sold out for Jesus and I rejoice in that and call them my brothers and sisters.
They are full on Catholics, and many of the ones who want a closer relationship to God, convert to Evangelical christian.
The racial attitude that Hispanics, or that people from catholic nations are no more Catholic than a non-catholic, sounds like true anti-Catholicism or racism, or a rare type of ugly bigotry.
I guess a handful of Catholics that prefer to live in a Protestant country over the Catholic country that borders us might have such views.
The thing that counts for conservatives and pro-lifers is that we see a key to unlocking the left’s grip on the Catholic immigrant’s vote.
This means that the future is not so certain for the left after all.
What kind of pro-lifer would get angry over converting pro-abortion voters to pro-life voters?
I pray that this reformation will spread like wildfire through the Latin world and lessen the slavery and ignorance of Roman control.
No, they are not. You can say they are until you are blue in the face, but by their own self-identification they are not Catholics. You have a tendency to trot out this tired racism line, when by their own admission, far less than half of Mexicans are actual Catholics. Hence, they are no more Catholic than you are, who likewise does not identify as Catholic.
America is not a Protestant country by merit its very founding virtues, and sadly its not even a Christian country these days.
And you are assuming these people were all anti-life, then all become pro-life. The fact that over half of them are still democrats doesn't back up your assertion at all.
And again, less than half of 25% of 14% is such a negligable amount of people, even if every single one voted, as to be nearly disregardable.
LOL. Floater of the day right there.
LOL, Hispanic Catholics are Catholics, and they identify as such, if they aren’t Catholic then they aren’t, and they don’t.
The immigrants from the Catholic nations are overwhelmingly Catholic.
The Catholic ones and the no-religion ones vote pro-abortion democrat, but if they become Evangelicals, they become more conservative and pro-life.
Go pro-life, we see a way to overcome this Catholic immigration that the democrats count on.
Rejoice, good news is good news.
"but if they become Evangelicals, they become more conservative and pro-life."
Less than half of them.
Catholics need to rediscover the Bible. Is this your unique observation, or are you repeating misinformation that is bandied about concerning Catholics?
Just wondering why you think we do not know the Bible? I could just as easily day, “Protestants need to study early Church Fathers more.”
Generalizations do not help anyone to understand what is going on.
My observation of the status of Christianity today in the USA is that most folks want to/should strive to make Jesus their best friend. A minister or priest who is successful in teaching the Gospel with the goal of winning souls for Christ will be successful. It does not matter how much memorization anyone can do with Bible passages - or how many novenas one makes, if the final outcome is a superficial faith. Becoming Christ-like is the epitome of being a good Christian.
“We see some hope in diluting the effect of the destruction caused by the mass Catholic immigration we suffer from.”
Are you talking about recent immigration of Latino’s to North America? - or are you referring to 19th century immigration from Catholic Europe into the USA?
The reason I am asking is that you are mistaken about the so-called ‘destruction” of our country from Catholic immigration. I can tell you that one of the reasons that Catholics were so stridently Democratic for 100 years is that when the Irish came to New England, they were met with virulent anti-Catholic bigotry by the upper class of Boston. Since those folks were members of the Republican party, the Democrats took advantage of it and recruited the Catholic vote. “Irish need not apply” was the message received by Irish immigrants from fat-cat Republicans in Boston.
Historically, the immigrant Irish population became overwhelmingly the leaders of the fast-growing Catholic church in America. So, the youth, young priests, etc. were influenced toward favoring Democrats, and that became for many of them as important to them as being a Catholic. But these Catholics never were pro-slavery or for that matter, were not necessarily for large government. They had fled from persecution in Europe. Still, without the wherewithal to become educated, these immigrants ended up becoming public servants, policemen, firemen, etc. That is why there is this history of favoring the Democrats, not because they favor socialism.
No. the majority of Hispanics are Catholics.
The vast majority of Hispanic immigrants arrive as Catholic.
If they become Evangelical they also become more pro-life and politically conservative voters.
Why does that bother you?
People who are pro-life and pro-marriage, and conservative, should be dancing in the streets at this news, it shows a path to reversing the pro-abortion, leftist gains of the democrat party through Catholic immigration.
The majority of Catholic voters have been, and still are supporters of the democrat party and liberalism.
Big city politics and unionism, and socialism from Europe in the past, abortion and gay marriage big city politics, unionism, and socialism, today.
Nothing changes, the democrats need them.
I will point something else out.
If conservatism is important to you, shouldn’t you express some relief at learning about some Hispanics becoming Evangelicals?
I should have been more specific (that’s what happens when I’m typing on my mobile while watching my daughter get her hair cut :> ): when I said “I welcome it,” the “it” included both the Hispanics becoming evangelicals, and the Catholic Church getting a wake up call.
If it hadn’t been for Luther, the Catholic Church would not have “counter-reformed,” and, among many other things, Francis Xavier wouldn’t have gone to India, China, and Japan, and El Adelantado would not have been so motivated to Catholic-ize the Philippines—which, if memory serves me, was only the second land to be “converted back” from the Muslims, the first being Spain. So as Paul put it in Philippians, however the gospel is preached, and whoever is preaching the gospel, I rejoice, so long as it is the gospel.
And once again, only less than half of them become more politically conservative. The only thing that bothers me is your insistence upon repeating falsehoods when confronted with the truth.
Lol, no, you haven’t, as we can see on this thread you just post nonsense.
PEW Research:
“Report Summary
Chapter 1: Religion and Demography
More than two-thirds of Hispanics (68%) identify themselves as Roman Catholics. The next largest category,
at 15%, is made up of born-again or evangelical Protestants.”
Now that is after many immigrants converting, and others dropping out of religion entirely.
No they don't. Catholics are more into the Bible now than they have ever been in their history . . . and they've never been more irreverent, doubting, and skeptical towards it.
What good does it do to have everyone reading bibles that are annotated with liberal, higher-critical commentaries that insist that the Torah was a late forgery and that Genesis was a rip-off of ancient Babylonian and Canaanite cosmogonical myths? Shoot, apparently (from at least one FReeper) G-d didn't even slay the Egyptian firstborn (that was a "metaphor").
Catholics were better off when they were totally unfamiliar with the Bible but implicitly believed it. In modern Catholicism familiarity has breeded only contempt.
55% of Hispanics in America identified as Catholic in 2013. The number declines by about 5% per year. Among Mexicans (the main bloc of illegal aliens, and the least conservative), fewer than half identify as actual practicing Catholics.
http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2014/05/07/fewer-hispanics-are-catholic-so-how-can-more-catholics-be-hispanic/
Huh?
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