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To: roamer_1
"PROVE IT. You can't."

(16) Simon Peter answered and said: "Thou art Christ, the Son of the living God". (17) And Jesus answering, said to him : "Blessed art thou, Simon Bar-Jona : because flesh and blood hath not revealed it to thee, but my Father who is in heaven. (18) And I say to thee: That thou art Peter; and upon this rock I will build my church, and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it.
- Matthew 16 verses 16 thru 18

Christ Himself gave the name Rock (Matt 16:17 above) to Simon Bar-Jona who the Father chose to head His Church until Christ returns. That's clearly stated in the above verses as anyone who is open to the Holy Spirit rather than only to their own Most High and Holy Self can see.

If you can't accept what Jesus Christ Himself clearly said, so be it.

402 posted on 06/05/2014 1:56:50 AM PDT by Rashputin (Jesus Christ doesn't evacuate His troops, He leads them to victory.)
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To: Rashputin
Christ Himself gave the name Rock (Matt 16:17 above) to Simon Bar-Jona who the Father chose to head His Church until Christ returns. That's clearly stated in the above verses as anyone who is open to the Holy Spirit rather than only to their own Most High and Holy Self can see.

Your selective use of a few verses to TRY to prove your point is noted.

THESE verses CLEARLY show that Simon was known as PETER way BEFORE the verses you posted.



Is Peter the 'rock'?
 


NIV Matthew 4:18-19
 18.  As Jesus was walking beside the Sea of Galilee, he saw two brothers, Simon called Peter and his brother Andrew. They were casting a net into the lake, for they were fishermen.
 19.  "Come, follow me," Jesus said, "and I will make you fishers of men."
 
NIV Matthew 8:14
  When Jesus came into Peter's house, he saw Peter's mother-in-law lying in bed with a fever.
 
NIV Matthew 10:1-2
 1.  He called his twelve disciples to him and gave them authority to drive out evil  spirits and to heal every disease and sickness.
 2.  These are the names of the twelve apostles: first, Simon (who is called Peter) and his brother Andrew; James son of Zebedee, and his brother John;
 
NIV Matthew 14:28-31
 28.  "Lord, if it's you," Peter replied, "tell me to come to you on the water."
 29.  "Come," he said.   Then Peter got down out of the boat, walked on the water and came toward Jesus.
 30.  But when he saw the wind, he was afraid and, beginning to sink, cried out, "Lord, save me!"
 31.  Immediately Jesus reached out his hand and caught him. "You of little faith," he said, "why did you doubt?"
 
NIV Matthew 15:13-16
 13.  He replied, "Every plant that my heavenly Father has not planted will be pulled up by the roots.
 14.  Leave them; they are blind guides.  If a blind man leads a blind man, both will fall into a pit."
 15.  Peter said, "Explain the parable to us."
 16.  "Are you still so dull?" Jesus asked them.
 

As you can see, Simon was already known as 'Peter'
BEFORE the following verses came along.....


NIV Matthew 16:13-18
 13.  When Jesus came to the region of Caesarea Philippi, he asked his disciples, "Who do people say the Son of Man is?"
 14.  They replied, "Some say John the Baptist; others say Elijah; and still others, Jeremiah or one of the prophets."
 15.  "But what about you?" he asked. "Who do you say I am?"
 16.  Simon Peter answered, "You are the Christ,  the Son of the living God."
 17.  Jesus replied, "
Blessed are you, Simon son of Jonah, for this was not revealed to you by man, but by my Father in heaven.
 18.  And I tell you that you are Peter, and on this rock I will build my church, and the gates of Hades  will not overcome it.
 19.  I will give you the keys of the kingdom of heaven; whatever you bind on earth will be  bound in heaven, and whatever you loose on earth will be loosed in heaven."


407 posted on 06/05/2014 4:20:22 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Rashputin
If you can't accept what Jesus Christ Himself clearly said, so be it.

What MUST we do...

408 posted on 06/05/2014 4:22:15 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Rashputin
Christ Himself gave the name Rock (Matt 16:17 above) to Simon Bar-Jona who the Father chose to head His Church until Christ returns. That's clearly stated in the above verses as anyone who is open to the Holy Spirit rather than only to their own Most High and Holy Self can see.

Joh 1:42 And he brought him to Jesus. And when Jesus beheld him, he said, Thou art Simon the son of Jona: thou shalt be called Cephas, which is by interpretation, A stone.

e-Sword: KJV

That is, a building stone... look it up. Next.

409 posted on 06/05/2014 10:27:33 AM PDT by roamer_1 (Globalism is just socialism in a business suit.)
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