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Evangelical Leader Returns To Catholicism
http://www.washingtonpost.com ^ | May 12, 2007 | Alan Cooperman

Posted on 05/30/2014 10:23:23 PM PDT by NKP_Vet

The president of the Evangelical Theological Society, an association of 4,300 Protestant theologians, resigned this month because he has joined the Roman Catholic Church.

The May 5 announcement by Francis J. Beckwith, a tenured associate professor at Baptist-affiliated Baylor University in Waco, Tex., has left colleagues gasping for breath and commentators grasping for analogies.

One blogger likened it to Hulk Hogan's defection from the World Wrestling Federation to the rival World Championship Wrestling league.

(Excerpt) Read more at washingtonpost.com ...


TOPICS: Apologetics; General Discusssion; Religion & Culture; Theology
KEYWORDS: beckwith; catholic; evangelicals; revert
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To: JPX2011
You can always count on protestants to reach into popular culture to analogize their understanding of things.

Go ye into all the world...

181 posted on 06/01/2014 5:03:33 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Elsie
Then He's a flip-flopper - according to John 6:28.

And we must remain in Him and keep His commands, or be "thrown into the fire and burned." We must also "repent and believe."

Regardless, you left out some important context from the Catechism.

1257 The Lord himself affirms that Baptism is necessary for salvation.60 He also commands his disciples to proclaim the Gospel to all nations and to baptize them.61 Baptism is necessary for salvation for those to whom the Gospel has been proclaimed and who have had the possibility of asking for this sacrament.62 The Church does not know of any means other than Baptism that assures entry into eternal beatitude; this is why she takes care not to neglect the mission she has received from the Lord to see that all who can be baptized are "reborn of water and the Spirit." God has bound salvation to the sacrament of Baptism, but he himself is not bound by his sacraments.
Baptism is normative for salvation.
182 posted on 06/01/2014 5:03:59 AM PDT by St_Thomas_Aquinas ( Isaiah 22:22, Matthew 16:19, Revelation 3:7)
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To: Elsie
The Catholic Church God has set The Catholic Church itself up as the ONLY authoritative body that has the ABSOLUTE RIGHT to 'interpret' Scripture.

There we go!

183 posted on 06/01/2014 5:04:02 AM PDT by JPX2011
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To: boatbums
Lighten up, dude.

It'll take a talking ass.

I'm available...

184 posted on 06/01/2014 5:04:55 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: JPX2011
But make no mistake it is not the Catholic Church that separated.

"...the Democratic party left me."


185 posted on 06/01/2014 5:06:21 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Elsie
Seems you have a self control problem.

So says the garrulous individual.

186 posted on 06/01/2014 5:06:37 AM PDT by JPX2011
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To: JPX2011

So you speak for God huh, you’re full of it.


187 posted on 06/01/2014 5:06:52 AM PDT by eldoradude (How many democrats does it take to change a light bulb?)
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To: Elsie
go ye into all the world...

And yet they became the world. Tragedy.

188 posted on 06/01/2014 5:07:57 AM PDT by JPX2011
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To: daniel1212
That is a false presupposition.

I've looked in his creel.

There is an infinite supply of red herrings in it.



189 posted on 06/01/2014 5:09:31 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: daniel1212
Meanwhile, it is also rare to see notable Mormon leaders or JW's becoming evangelicals, are like leaders in Rome, they have chosen deception over Truth.


.... I want you to read the following snippet from one couple’s journey out of Catholicism and into the LDS Church,
and then listen to what I have to say about reversing the tide of the millions of faithful flowing away from the Catholic Church.
 
http://www.austincnm.com/index.php/2013/03/why-good-catholics-are-becoming-mormon/

190 posted on 06/01/2014 5:10:28 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: eldoradude
So you speak for God huh, you’re full of it.

No. God spoke to Peter. Your argument is not with me.

191 posted on 06/01/2014 5:16:37 AM PDT by JPX2011
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To: JPX2011; boatbums
Interesting that protestants speak of Christian love and fellowship and yet can’t help but ping their fellow members of the FR protestant contingent to everything they post. Jackals hoping to get a piece of the Catholic carcass.

Interesting how when Catholics do the same, all we hear from other Catholics is.....

***crickets***.

192 posted on 06/01/2014 5:46:08 AM PDT by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith....)
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To: metmom

Interesting how when Catholics do the same, all we hear from other Catholics is...***crickets***

Maybe because they don't do it. God knows I'd love to get pinged to your pearls...

193 posted on 06/01/2014 5:48:39 AM PDT by JPX2011
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To: JPX2011
You can always count on protestants to reach into popular culture to analogize their understanding of things. So wedded they are to the church of What’s Happening now.

God forbid a protestant should not be hip to the latest cultural trends. How else would the be able to evangelize without their wrist bands, rock concerts, and t-shirts. Sad and pathetic really.

Jesus ate with the tax collectors and prostitutes and was soundly condemned by the religious leaders of the day as being a glutton and drunkard.

How is that attitude any different?

194 posted on 06/01/2014 6:08:08 AM PDT by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith....)
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To: JPX2011; boatbums
I guess it is a slow night if we're down to describing the Roman Catholic Church as the Borg (not that I need any explanation on the subject but thanks anyway). But it is an interesting phenomenon nonetheless how protestants have this deep-seated need to be identified with the secular culture. The Cool Christians Club.

Luke 18:9-14 He also told this parable to some who trusted in themselves that they were righteous, and treated others with contempt: “Two men went up into the temple to pray, one a Pharisee and the other a tax collector. The Pharisee, standing by himself, prayed thus: ‘God, I thank you that I am not like other men, extortioners, unjust, adulterers, or even like this tax collector. I fast twice a week; I give tithes of all that I get.’ But the tax collector, standing far off, would not even lift up his eyes to heaven, but beat his breast, saying, ‘God, be merciful to me, a sinner!’ I tell you, this man went down to his house justified, rather than the other. For everyone who exalts himself will be humbled, but the one who humbles himself will be exalted.”

195 posted on 06/01/2014 6:10:53 AM PDT by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith....)
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To: daniel1212

She me the protestant equivalent of the show listed below and I will be the first to watch it.

http://chnetwork.org/converts/

In my experience the wisest, most serious-minded, most probing, most searching Christians end up converting from Protestantism to Catholicism, not the other way around. Also, converts from Protestantism to Catholicism typically loved their Protestant faith and knew it and understood it well. Converts from Catholicism to Protestantism, on the other hand, typically never loved the Catholic faith and were very poorly catechized. Give that some thought, because it’s true.


196 posted on 06/01/2014 6:36:31 AM PDT by NKP_Vet
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To: boatbums; metmom; aMorePerfectUnion; Salvation; daniel1212; JPX2011; piusv

Show me the protestant equivalent of the show listed below and I will be the first to watch it.

http://chnetwork.org/converts/

In my experience the wisest, most serious-minded, most probing, most searching Christians end up converting from Protestantism to Catholicism, not the other way around. Also, converts from Protestantism to Catholicism typically loved their Protestant faith and knew it and understood it well. Converts from Catholicism to Protestantism, on the other hand, typically never loved the Catholic faith and were very poorly catechized. Give that some thought, because it’s true.


197 posted on 06/01/2014 6:46:54 AM PDT by NKP_Vet
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To: Elsie

The Bible says if you don’t work you don’t eat. That includes blacks or anyone else.


198 posted on 06/01/2014 6:50:12 AM PDT by NKP_Vet
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To: NKP_Vet

“Converts from Catholicism to Protestantism, on the other hand, typically never loved the Catholic faith and were very poorly catechized. Give that some thought, because it’s true.”

It is hard to take those kind of posts seriously. It comes across like wishful thinking - a denial of reality.

If priests leave, you are claiming they never loved their faith, were poorly catechized and were not thoughtful. Your posts have no credibility when you go to extremes like this.

In the meantime, please continue to send 10s of millions of Romans from around the world to Christ. We will take care of them and catechized them correctly.


199 posted on 06/01/2014 7:10:13 AM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion ( "I didn't leave the Central Oligarchy Party. It left me." - Ronaldus Magnimus, 2014)
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To: JPX2011
Thank you FRiend.

I apologize for my cross words first thing on a Sunday morning.

200 posted on 06/01/2014 7:30:04 AM PDT by eldoradude (How many democrats does it take to change a light bulb?)
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