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Funny, i had the same conversion, in Reverse.
Was Catholic now Reformed Baptist.
1. Rome believes in “faith” and Works salvation. Catholics must appropriate “grace” via the Mass, etc.. that enables them to perform the works necessary for salvation where the soul is righteous enough to please God and worthy of Heaven.
2. Catholics must appropriate “grace” via the Mass, etc.. that enables them to perform the works necessary for salvation where the soul is righteous enough to please God and worthy of Heaven.

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*1. "Rome believes..." I didn't know that Rome was a person. Tony Rome??
The Catholic Church has some dogmas but I have never been told that it's dogma that good works and faith are a guarantee to heaven.

*2. I also have never heard that we must "appropriate" grace via the Mass and the "etc." which, somehow, is supposed to make us "righteous" enough to please God and be worthy of heaven.
Are you SURE that you were a Catholic?

*Some of that is just fine but there is no FORMULA for getting to heaven.

*There is no GUARANTEE of anything in this life except that we ARE going to die and meet our Maker.

*No Catholic that I know of was told that s/he had to "appropriate" grace. How would a seven-year-old know what that is?

*These is NO "quid pro quo" when it comes to the salvation of our eternal souls.

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If THOSE dicta were preached to you regarding salvation, then I sure don't blame you for leaving the faith.

BTW: What is the difference between a Baptist and a "Reformed Baptist"???

God bless you and your family for all the trauma you had to endure because of your "Catholicism." The good Lord obviously has a reason for that. Do you have any idea why He had you go through that? There HAS to be a ver good reason.

1. "Rome believes..." I didn't know that Rome was a person. Tony Rome?? The Catholic Church has some dogmas but I have never been told that it's dogma that good works and faith are a guarantee to heaven.

Right, the RCC does not guarantee the formula, but at least according to the poster "Salvation" faith and works must be done (see his exegesis of James)

2. Catholics must appropriate “grace” via the Mass, etc.. that enables them to perform the works necessary for salvation where the soul is righteous enough to please God and worthy of Heaven.

While my precise wording is not in the catechism, I think my meaning is pretty close to what the RCC teaches.

BTW: What is the difference between a Baptist and a "Reformed Baptist"???

Reformed Baptists are smarter! :)

Reformed as in Calvinistic. Kind of like a Catholic Thomists position.

<>BTW: What is the difference between a Baptist and a "Reformed Baptist"???

I was walking across a bridge one day, and I saw a man standing on the edge, about to jump off. So I ran over and said, "Stop! Don't do it!"

"Why shouldn't I?" he said.

I said, "Well, there's so much to live for!"

He said, "Like what?"

I said, "Well...are you religious or atheist?"

He said, "Religious."

I said, "Me too! Are you Christian or Buddhist?"

He said, "Christian."

I said, "Me too! Are you Catholic or Protestant?"

He said, "Protestant."

I said, "Me too! Are you Episcopalian or Baptist?"

He said, "Baptist!"

I said,"Wow! Me too! Are you Baptist Church of GOD or Baptist Church of the Lord?"

He said, "Baptist Church of GOD!"

I said, "Me too! Are you Original Baptist Church of GOD, or are you Reformed Baptist Church of GOD?"

He said,"Reformed Baptist Church of GOD!"

I said, "Me too! Are you Reformed Baptist Church of GOD, reformation of 1879, or Reformed Baptist Church of GOD, reformation of 1915?"

He said, "Reformed Baptist Church of GOD, reformation of 1915!"

I said, "Die, heretic scum", and pushed him off.

-- Emo Phillips

<>BTW: What is the difference between a Baptist and a "Reformed Baptist"???

What's the difference between Roman Catholic Church and Eastern Orthodox?