Merriam-Webster's Unabridged Dictionary gives two definitions for "excess":
1 a: a state of surpassing or going beyond limits
1 b: something that exceeds what is usual, proper, proportionate, or specified
1 c: the amount or degree by which one thing or number exceeds another
2: undue or immoderate indulgence
You have chosen definition #2, when the Bible context specifies that going beyond ZERO ingesting of alcoholic beverage (wine or strong drink) is the degree beyond what the Holy Spirit does not permit if He is to be in control of your spiritual life--if Jesus is to be Lord of All. That would be is definition #1.
If the amount permitted was beyond zero (and it is not), then you, governed by your fickle heart (influenced by how high your BAC is)(Jeremiah 17:9-10), have no basis to judge what your tolerance is, nor that of anyone else.
Actually, state legislatures have arbitrarily but uniformly set a limit of 0.08% BAC as the limit for vehicle operation, thus indicating that even one beer incapacitates one's driving ability to an unacceptable degree.
But in fact, the Holy Ghost has set an unarguable and determinable limit of BAC for fellowshipping with you, and that is ZERO, and that is also a condition of employment as a servant of The Lord. Resistance to that rule is also a measure of the limit of one's spiritual maturity, which is the level of resistance to chastening by the Holy Spirit. It sets up a standard by which any observer, saved or not, can easily distinguish from one's doctrine whether the person is a follow of Christ, or not.
Absolute intransigency in taking the position that the Holy Spirit permits some recreational imbibing (but with what self-imposed bounds?) is a flag that the person is a spiritual danger to self and others, and should be treated as if he/she were unsaved as well as unreliable in opinion.
Why is that? It is because the word ασωτια is "from a compound of G1 (as a negative particle) and a presumed derivative of G4982" (Thayer); is "properly unsavedness, that is, (by implication) profligacy" (Strong); that is, the partaker of any amount of intoxicating substance is implicitly practicing the habitual behavior and mentality of an unsaved, unspiritual person.
If it was your son, who was buried before his time, on his 27th birthday because of his high BAC causing his fatal accident, as mine was; then you would begin to understand the level of chastening The God might administer to you for your mindset and conduct before your children as the example whom you think they ought to imitate.
I honestly hope you are getting this nugget of holy wisdom by inference, rather than by the chastening you will receive if you are unteachable now (Hebrews 12:5-8).
Beyond this, I cannot help you.
The only thing I can base my belief on is plain scripture.
1 a: a state of surpassing or going beyond limits
2: undue or immoderate indulgence
You have chosen definition #2,>>>
It is the same thing to me.
when the Bible context specifies that going beyond ZERO ingesting of alcoholic beverage (wine or strong drink) is the degree beyond what the Holy Spirit does not permit >>>>>
That is your conclusion but I have read none of this in scripture.
But supposing you are right, would not Paul be wrong by telling the Deacons to not be given to much wine, meaning they could drink a little?
You need to remember that Jesus chose 12 unlearned and ignorant men to preach the gospel to the world.
They were only unlearned and ignorant in the minds of the highly educated professors of religion, plus they had what the professors did not have which is common sense.
You are coming up with words that I have never heard of to prove your point, telling me what the correct meaning is.
But what you do not think about is that maybe the Apostles did not even know the correct meaning of many words no more than people of today do.
I have no doubt you have heard the phrase ( I couldn’t care less )
Which means I do not care at all.
The younger generation has changed it to ( I could care less ) thinking they are saying the same thing but the meaning is the exact opposite.
But what they think they are saying is (I don`t care)
It is nothing but a play on words which does not impress me and probably no one else.
He was killed by a deer jumping across the cycle, and no I do not hate deer, nothing is going to happen to any one against gods will which we know nothing about, but God does.
Paul also says that if our hope is in this life only we are most miserable of all men, God knows what he is doing and I do not believe any one is taken in an accident unless it is time for him or her to go.
We only know as much about it as God thought we should know, whether your Son or my son knew God or not only God knows.
But we may be surprised at what they know, just because we can not communicate with them does not mean that God can`t.
Has it occurred to you that maybe God took your son out of love? instead of what you suppose? could he have saved him from something much worse?
God bless you.