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To: af_vet_1981
God made an eternal covenant with Israel and He is not finished with Israel. Israel remains Israel, the physical descendants of Jacob, and as the Apostle to the Gentiles wrote As concerning the gospel, they are enemies for your sakes: but as touching the election, they are beloved for the fathers' sakes. For the gifts and calling of God are without repentance.

Blood line had nothing to do with being part of Israel. The promise of a great nation WASN'T given to Jacob-it was given to Abraham. The apostle Paul also wrote the following:

And, as Paul points out, there were many children of Abraham but only a few children of the promise. And Israel is a type of what God had in mind.

So the real question is who are the children of the promise?

23 posted on 05/11/2014 5:01:41 PM PDT by HarleyD ("... letters are weighty, but his .. presence is weak, and his speech of no account.")
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To: HarleyD
Blood line had nothing to do with being part of Israel. The promise of a great nation WASN'T given to Jacob-it was given to Abraham. The apostle Paul also wrote the following:

And further:

Jacob is one of only three in the Scriptures who were called tam or its plural, tamim (perfect). Noah, Job, and Jacob were tam while Abraham was

So it makes sense to see Jacob as perfect in the same sense as Noah, Job, and Abraham (who was commanded to be tamim).

Now, for righteousness' sake, let's include Daniel to see what a high standard the word indicates.


24 posted on 05/11/2014 5:25:29 PM PDT by af_vet_1981 (The bus came by and I got on, That's when it all began)
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To: HarleyD
Blood line had nothing to do with being part of Israel. The promise of a great nation WASN'T given to Jacob-it was given to Abraham.

Ezekiel 28:25
'Thus says the L-rd G-D, "When I gather the house of Israel from the peoples among whom they are scattered, and will manifest My holiness in them in the sight of the nations, then they will live in their land which I gave to My servant Jacob."

Isaiah 49:6
He says, "It is too small a thing that You should be My Servant to raise up the tribes of Jacob and to restore the preserved ones of Israel; I will also make You a light of the nations so that My salvation may reach to the end of the earth."

Micah 4:2
Many nations will come and say, "Come and let us go up to the mountain of the L-RD And to the house of the G-d of Jacob, That He may teach us about His ways And that we may walk in His paths." For from Zion will go forth the Torah, even the word of the L-RD from Jerusalem.


31 posted on 05/11/2014 7:26:13 PM PDT by Tzfat
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