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To: PhilipFreneau

Sir, let’s stick to the issue regarding the voluminous quotations you’ve made in reference to the Jews you’ve quoted from the New Testament.

Let me say it again for the last time.

They are meaningless within the context and perspective
of Jewish belief, ideology and philosophy and the very destiny of the Jewish people in which God has decreed for his chosen people in their ultimate salvation.


62 posted on 05/09/2014 1:01:17 AM PDT by lbryce (Barack Hussein Obama:The Worst is Yet to Come)
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To: lbryce
I don't believe in replacement theology—that God has finally washed his hands of the Jews and is done with them and that Christians have replaced them.

Jews are God's people—period.
Deuteronomy 14:2
Psalms 105:8-15
2 Samuel 7:23-24
1 Kings 10:9

Note the word “FOREVER” is used over and over—folks can throw semantics out all they want, but there is no getting around this truth.

Romans 11:25 is prophecy still morphing and hasn't completely been fulfilled (probably a lot closer than most people realize).

The next war in the Middle East is going to prove a doozy for Israel. Isaiah 17 could easily be fulfilled with the Psalm 83 war, and this will be shortly followed by Ezekiel 38-39.

63 posted on 05/09/2014 5:25:38 AM PDT by Roman_War_Criminal (Bible Summary in a few verses: John 14:6, John 6:29, Romans 10:9-10)
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To: lbryce
>>>Let me say it again for the last time.<<<

Does that mean you are not responding to me, again? Or, am I suppose to slink away into a closet? What do you mean by that?


>>>They are meaningless within the context and perspective of Jewish belief, ideology and philosophy and the very destiny of the Jewish people in which God has decreed for his chosen people in their ultimate salvation.<<<

First, let's be clear that the Jews as a group have not been God's chosen people for about 2000 years. Nor will they ever be again. If individual Jews want to be a part of God's people--and become descendants of Abraham--they must call on the name of the Lord, like many of the early Christians did. Like I did.

The chosen people were the small remnant that the Lord called, such as Paul, Peter, James, John, …, the elect of Israel. They became the apostles and earliest Christians. You can read about the destiny of the elect, and those that called on the name of the Lord, in Joel:

"And it shall come to pass that whosoever shall call on the name of the Lord shall be saved: for in mount Sion and in Jerusalem shall the saved one be as the Lord has said, and they that have glad tidings preached to them, whom the Lord has called." (Joel 2:32 Septuagint)

Isaiah spoke of the elect in this manner:

"Jacob is my servant, I will help him: Israel is my chosen, my soul has accepted him; I have put my Spirit upon him; he shall bring forth judgment to the Gentiles. He shall not cry, nor lift up his voice, nor shall his voice be heard without. A bruised reed shall he not break, and smoking flax shall he not quench; but he shall bring forth judgment to truth. He shall shine out, and shall not be discouraged, until he have set judgment on the earth: and in his name shall the Gentiles trust." (Isa 42:1-4 Septuagint)

Do you know anyone like that?

Also, what we post works both ways. "Jewish" belief is meaningless to salvation. When I see anti-Christian doctrine, such as "Jewish' belief, on this forum, I will respond.


>>>Sir, let’s stick to the issue regarding the voluminous quotations you’ve made in reference to the Jews you’ve quoted from the New Testament.<<<

I believe my posts also included a warning from Moses. But since you obviously do not respect new covenant interpretations, this is the same warning from the old testament version commonly in use in the early first century:

"I will raise up to them a prophet of their brethren, like thee; and I will put my words in his mouth, and he shall speak to them as I shall command him. And whatever man shall not hearken to whatsoever words that prophet shall speak in my name, I will take vengeance on him " (Deu 18:18-19 Septuagint)

Over one million were slaughtered in Jerusalem, alone. There were also these warnings from Moses:

"And all these curses shall come upon thee, and shall pursue thee, and shall overtake thee, until he shall have consumed thee, and until he shall have destroyed thee; because thou didst not hearken to the voice of the Lord thy God, to keep his commands, and his ordinances which he has commanded thee. And these things shall be signs in thee, and wonders among thy seed for ever; because thou didst not serve the Lord thy God with gladness and a good heart, because of the abundance of all things." (Deu 28:45-47 Septuagint)

"For I know thy provocation, and thy stiff neck; for yet during my life with you at this day, ye have been provoking in your conduct toward God: how shall ye not also be so after my death? Gather together to me the heads of your tribes, and your elders, and your judges, and your officers, that I may speak in their ears all these words; and I call both heaven and earth to witness against them. For I know that after my death ye will utterly transgress, and turn aside out of the way which I have commanded you; and evils shall come upon you in the latter days, because ye will do evil before the Lord, to provoke him to anger by the works of your hands." (Deu 31:27-29 Septuagint)

They just do not get it. Too bad Israel did not listen to Moses. When Israel was not killing the prophets, they were ignoring them. How long did they think God would put up with that arrogance?

Philip

78 posted on 05/10/2014 10:59:22 AM PDT by PhilipFreneau
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