Posted on 05/06/2014 4:56:53 PM PDT by Gamecock
More coverups and denials.
it really depends on whose bull gets gorged I guess.....
the Catholic church can not win....they get strict and they get hosed...they aren't strict and they get hosed....
Then-Archbishop Alexander J. Brunett notified Quigg in person and writing he was no longer allowed to perform any public priestly duties, present himself publicly as a priest, or wear clerical garb. The Archdiocese says the information was not made public because it was determined the the sexual contact did not involve a minor and to respect Quigg's privacy because it was considered a personnel matter.
Colbert: One of these days, the Catholic church will make it 10 days with no sex abuse scandal
Don’t warn the sheep when there is a wolf in the flock!
Given the importance placed upon physical, ritual actions performed by a priest, does this mean any baptisms performed will not be regarded as valid, if he was prohibited from performing them?
You didn’t read the article.
Per Church doctrine anyone can perform a valid baptism, even a perform who is not themselves baptised, so I assume baptisms this guy performed were valid.
**You didnt read the article.**
Let me summarize.
-He was stripped of his priestly duties.
-He performed the sacraments
-But in typical Roman Catholic obfuscation, they count anyway. (See: Annulment. Married, but not really.)
Really? Source please.
I know they can in case of emergency, but under normal circumstances?
Does he ever tally public school sexual scandals?
This man hasn’t been charged with sexual abuse yet to some it goes in that same category.
Teachers are having sex with minors every week and “nobody knows nothing”.
The kids have an option to go to church once or twice a week but they are required by law to be at school upwards of 8 hours a day 5 days a week.
WOW! Using your logic priests can do in an hour or two a week what it takes teachers a full 40 hour week to accomplish!
BTW when teachers are caught they go to jail. Priests, like the one in this story, are hidden by the Roman Catholic hierarchy. That is the difference.
But what did he intend to do?
BTW when teachers are caught they go to jail. Priests, like the one in this story, are hidden by the Roman Catholic hierarchy. That is the difference.
...sure am glad we have you on this forum to tell us all how the RCC operates...I’m sure you’re the very voice of objectivity on the matter...
Do these priests never have to report to “headquarters?”
I swear, the RCC is the most poorly run organization on earth. The Keystone cops are laughing.
The priniciple is Ex Opere Operato. The power of the sacrament is Christ’s, not of the priest or minister. In Baptisms, so long as the one baptizing has the intention of what the Church intends and use the proper form and matter(i.e. must say the right words), the sacrament is valid. The sinful state of the minister is not relevant. In Marriage, the ministers of the sacrament are the people being married, not the priest.
The sacramments needing a priestly ordination are Eucharist, Annointing the Sick, and Reconciliation, all of which have a absolution component. The sacraments by the priest would be considered valid because the priest was not laicised (which requires Vatican approval), but illicit because he did not have the permission of the bishop. They will not have to be “re-done”.
If the preist had not used the words “In the name of the Father, of the Son, and of the Holy Spirit” during Baptisms, then it would have been a Chinese Fire Drill trying to find everyone affected to let them know the Baptisms were invalid.
Much of Catholic theology follows Aristotelian philosophy with regard to Form and Matter to make something real. Such it is with the Sacraments.
Another instance of “Bravo”?
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