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To: Elsie; SeaHawkFan
The problem is that Scripture has BOTH types of examples:

Predestination AND Free Will

Men seem to want to choose one or the other...

I'll throw this into the mix.

I don't believe in total predestination, neither do I believe that such a thing as *free will* exists either.

It is God's will that all men believe and come to repentance. Scripture says it in so many words.

What I think is that men are offered is a choice. God draws and enlightens men, opens their eyes to see their need and then leaves it to them.

I think it's a matter of God clearing the fog at least once in every person's life and giving him a choice.

So the work is God's in drawing, convicting of sin, righteousness and judgment, saving, sealing, sanctifying, etc.

Sorry if this is not very coherent. Been a long weekend and it's morning.

55 posted on 05/08/2014 4:19:21 AM PDT by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith....)
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To: metmom
Been a long weekend and it's morning.

I'm be guessin'!!

Mom!!

It's THURSDAY morning!!

56 posted on 05/08/2014 5:48:28 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: metmom
I think it's a matter of God clearing the fog at least once in every person's life and giving him a choice.

Some of us take DOZENS of clarifying experiences!

57 posted on 05/08/2014 5:49:34 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: metmom; Elsie

This sermon by Charles Spurgeon is the best explanation of free will v. predestination.

http://www.spurgeon.org/sermons/1516.htm

While many FR Calvinists claim double predestination is Biblical, Charles Spurgeon obviously does not. Given that Spurgeon is a Calvinist icon, most FR Calvinists don’t seem to mention him much.

It should be noted that the British Calvinists are far different than the Dutch Calvinists in a number of ways.


58 posted on 05/08/2014 5:57:14 AM PDT by SeaHawkFan
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