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To: CynicalBear
Man can have works without faith but it will not save him. Man cannot have saving faith without works but it’s not the works that saves.

I prefer James's summary to yours as I can be certain it is correct. It is not Sola Fide.

Ye see then how that by works a man is justified, and not by faith only.

I see the union of faith and good works as well expressed in this passage as well. For God so loved the world, that he gave his only begotten Son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish, but have everlasting life. For God sent not his Son into the world to condemn the world; but that the world through him might be saved. He that believeth on him is not condemned: but he that believeth not is condemned already, because he hath not believed in the name of the only begotten Son of God. And this is the condemnation, that light is come into the world, and men loved darkness rather than light, because their deeds were evil. For every one that doeth evil hateth the light, neither cometh to the light, lest his deeds should be reproved. But he that doeth truth cometh to the light, that his deeds may be made manifest, that they are wrought in God.

203 posted on 05/05/2014 5:33:56 AM PDT by af_vet_1981 (The bus came by and I got on, That's when it all began)
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To: af_vet_1981
>> I prefer James's summary to yours as I can be certain it is correct.<<

I’m sure you think you do. What I’m also sure of is that it doesn’t mean what the Catholic Church wants you to think it means. The Catholic Church would have you enslaved to works and indebted to the church. But they haven’t rectified that one verse with the rest of scripture.

1 Corinthians 6:11 And such were some of you: but ye are washed, but ye are sanctified, but ye are justified in the name of the Lord Jesus, and by the Spirit of our God.

Hmmm! Justified by the Spirit of our God and not by our works!!

Rom. 3:28-30, "For we maintain that a man is justified by faith apart from works of the Law. 29 Or is God the God of Jews only? Is He not the God of Gentiles also? Yes, of Gentiles also, 30 since indeed God who will justify the circumcised by faith and the uncircumcised through faith is one."

Hmmm! Once again a man is justified by faith apart from works.

Romans 9:30 What shall we say then? That the Gentiles, which followed not after righteousness, have attained to righteousness, even the righteousness which is of faith. 31 But Israel, which followed after the law of righteousness, hath not attained to the law of righteousness. 32 Wherefore? Because they sought it not by faith, but as it were by the works of the law. For they stumbled at that stumblingstone;

Rom. 11:6, "But if it is by grace, it is no longer on the basis of works, otherwise grace is no longer grace."

Gal. 2:16, "nevertheless knowing that a man is not justified by the works of the Law but through faith in Christ Jesus, even we have believed in Christ Jesus, that we may be justified by faith in Christ, and not by the works of the Law; since by the works of the Law shall no flesh be justified."

Ephesians 2: 8 For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God: 9 Not of works, lest any man should boast. It’s not my summary. It’s the word of the Holy Spirit through the writers of scripture.

206 posted on 05/05/2014 3:07:51 PM PDT by CynicalBear (For I decided to know nothing among you except Jesus Christ)
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