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How Should Christians Think About Near-Death Experiences?
Patheos Philosophical Fragments ^ | February 14, 2013 | Timothy Dalrymple

Posted on 05/01/2014 3:20:40 PM PDT by SeekAndFind

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To: SeekAndFind

How Should Christians Think? The $64,000 question. Start with Reason and Honesty. If you dare.


21 posted on 05/01/2014 3:57:52 PM PDT by Misterioso
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To: I want the USA back
Sorry. No one comes back from death. Death is final. If someone “comes back” he was NOT DEAD.

Without the Resurrection of the Dead, Christianity is a lie.
Do deny that the dead can “comes back” is (a) to deny that Jesus did, and (b) to deny that he raised Lazarus.

22 posted on 05/01/2014 3:58:35 PM PDT by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: SeekAndFind

It appears that Dalrymple likes to tell God what he can and cannot do.


23 posted on 05/01/2014 3:59:36 PM PDT by JT Hatter (Who is Barack Obama? And What is He Really Up To?)
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To: Dr. Thorne

RE: Anything from Hank Hanegraaff is questionable. IMHO, he stole Walter Martin’s ministry and does little but attack other Christians.

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Steal? Or take over after Martin died?

During the late 1980s, Hanegraaff became associated with Walter Martin at the Christian Research Institute (CRI), the conservative Protestant countercult and apologetic ministry which Martin founded in 1960.

After Martin’s death from heart failure in June 1989, Hanegraaff became president of CRI. As part of his role as ministry president, Hanegraaff assumed the role from Martin as anchorman on the radio program The Bible Answer Man (which he still does today ).


24 posted on 05/01/2014 4:00:18 PM PDT by SeekAndFind (If at first you don't succeed, put it out for beta test.)
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To: I want the USA back
Sorry. No one comes back from death. Death is final. If someone “comes back” he was NOT DEAD. Really quite simple.

I disagree with you. I am just a plain ordinary human being and I am nobody special in this world except to God. I was a custodian at a Middle School and been employed for a few years when one day some teachers found me laying on the floor. They said I had no pulse or was I breathing, they were getting ready to do CPR on me and when they started to turn me over I came back. I don't have any recollection of anything that went on, but I do know that I felt peaceful, until I started breathing again. I saw no lights, no angels or anything that was an out of body experience. Shortly after that situation happened to me I had to resign from my job and go on disability because I started having bad events. I started having seizure like symptoms and tried medicines w/some real bad side effects. To this day I still having problems and I am going to a hospital to have test taken to find what remedies there are available and what is the cause of these events.

I do know that when I accepted Jesus into my life and confessed I was lost w/out Him, I felt a love and warmth that I never felt from a human or from my parents. I do believe that God saved me from death and even from the eternal death of damnation. That's my story on near death experience.

25 posted on 05/01/2014 4:05:19 PM PDT by TEARUNNER14 (JESUS HAS MY BACK AND THEREFORE I ..AM READY TO DIE FOR FREEDOM!)
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To: SeekAndFind

I don’t think you can be absolutely certain about any of them, but a lot of near death experiences seem to be real.

My take on it is that the person nearly died, or clinically speaking actually died, but that for whatever reason God decided it wasn’t time for him to die.

And I don’t believe that anyone actually goes literally to Heaven or Hell in such an experience, but that God may give them a true vision of Heaven or Hell, as a warning or caution, giving them a chance to return to life, repent their faults, and mend their lives.


26 posted on 05/01/2014 4:09:47 PM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: SeekAndFind

Interesting.

But I think no one should tell them what to think. This is a personal experience either for the observer or one who experiences it.


27 posted on 05/01/2014 4:13:48 PM PDT by RIghtwardHo
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To: SeekAndFind
Dr. Jeffrey Long’s Near-Death Experience Research a “Game Changer” for Science

Dr. Jeffrey Long’s Near-Death Experience Research a “Game Changer” for Science

The most comprehensive research into near-death experience deals a kill shot to skeptics and aims to change how science views the afterlife.

Science has studied the near-death experience for more than 20 years. Most research has concluded NDEs are real and unexplainable, but scientists have been slow to accept consciousness beyond death. A new scientific study by Jeffrey Long, M. D. may change that. The research compiled in  his new book, Evidence of the Afterlife, represents the largest, most comprehensive study of near-death experience and according to the study’s author is, “a real game-changer”.

Dr. Long explains, “we looked at nine lines of evidence that indicate the reality of near-death experiences and their consistent message of an afterlife. With each of these lines of evidence we carefully reviewed all prior scholarly research on the subject and made our contributions with our original research… from my point of view, the scientific term is compelling, but you can put it another way — the nine lines of evidence that I present is proof of the reality of near-death experiences.”

The conclusions of Dr. Long’s research are paradigm smashing for near-death experience skeptics who’ve argued that limited brain functioning may explain NDEs. “What near-death experiencers see correlates to their time of cardiac arrest and it is almost uniformly accurate in every detail. That pretty much refutes the possibility that these could be illusionary fragments, or unreal memories associated with hypoxia, chemicals, REM intrusion, anything that could cause brain dysfunction”, Dr. Long stated.

“I looked at over 280 near-death experiences that had out-of-body observations of Earthly ongoing events… If near-death experiences were just fragments of memory, unrealistic remembrances of a time approaching unconsciousness or returning from unconsciousness, there is no chance that the observations would have a high percent of completely accurate observations. They’d be dream-like or hallucinations. But 98% of them were entirely realistic… In fact, these observations of Earthly ongoing events often include observations of things that would be impossible for them to be aware of with any sensory function from their physical body. For example, they can see the tops of buildings. They can see far away. In my study over 60 of these near-death experiencers later went back and independently attempted to verify what they saw in the out-of-body state. Every single one of these over 60 near-death experiencers that reported checking or verifying their own observations found that they were absolutely correct in every detail.”, Dr. Long said.

While some near-death experience researchers have been reluctant to make the leap from NDEs to proof of the afterlife, Dr. Long is convinced by his research findings, “I’ve gone over every skeptic argument I can get my hands on. At the end of the day, I have no doubt in my mind near-death experience is for real. It’s a profound and reassuring message that we all have an afterlife. Every single one of us. And it’s wonderful. It is probably the greatest thrill of my life to be able to carry forward that important message to the world. I wouldn’t do it if I weren’t absolutely convinced that it’s correct.”

The conclusions of this research will be controversial, but Dr. Long stands ready to take on the critics, “I would be delighted to debate any near-death experience skeptic, any time, any place, on any media, as long as they’re scholarly, well informed, and as long as it can be a very high-level, intellectual debate.”

Jeffrey Long, M.D., is a physician practicing the specialty of radiation oncology (use of radiation to treat cancer) in Houma, Louisiana. Dr. Long has served on the Board of Directors of IANDS (International Association for Near-Death Studies), and is actively involved in NDE research. His book, Evidence of the Afterlife (HarperCollins), was published in 2010.

From Dr. Long’s website: Does Near-Death Experience (NDE) Evidence Prove an Afterlife?
Consider the Evidence, and Determine YOUR Answer!


28 posted on 05/01/2014 4:20:26 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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As aptly noted by Drs. J. P. Moreland and Gary Habermas (Beyond Death: Exploring the Evidence for Immortality), “the subjective texture of our conscious mental experiences—the feeling of pain, the experience of sound, the awareness of color—is different from anything that is simply physical. If the world were only made of matter these subjective aspects of consciousness would not exist. But they do exist! So there must be more to the world than matter.” Indeed, if we are merely material, libertarian freedom (freedom of the will) does not exist. Instead we are fatalistically relegated to a world in which everything is a function of factors such as brain chemistry and genetics. Reason itself is reduced to the status of conditioned reflex. Moreover, the very concept of love is rendered meaningless.
29 posted on 05/01/2014 4:22:11 PM PDT by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith....)
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To: Salvation

This book is so powerful because Dr. Long puts forth his scientific findings on each case and then he has the story of the NDE following.

Great book. Everyone needs to read it.

Check out his website.


30 posted on 05/01/2014 4:22:38 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: SeekAndFind
How Should Christians Think About Near-Death Experiences?

They're interesting accounts in some cases.

But really, it's not going to convince anyone who isn't a believer to accept Christ.

Remember what Abraham said to the rich man in hell. If his brothers wouldn't listen to Moses and the prophets, they would not believe even if someone was raised from the dead.

WE also have more sure word of the existence of heaven and hell than some people's alleged eyewitness accounts. It's called Scripture.

I question the wisdom in believing a person over Scripture.

32 posted on 05/01/2014 4:27:14 PM PDT by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith....)
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To: Salvation
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33 posted on 05/01/2014 4:27:30 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: Salvation

Why are you putting words in my mouth?

Show me where I said that. Post number please.

Otherwise, stop the underhanded debate techniques of accusing someone of something and then demanding that they defend themselves against it.


34 posted on 05/01/2014 4:29:02 PM PDT by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith....)
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To: metmom

I asked you questions.


35 posted on 05/01/2014 4:45:28 PM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: I want the USA back
"Sorry. No one comes back from death. Death is final. If someone “comes back” he was NOT DEAD. Really quite simple."

I did. Life was never the same again. I know it happened for a reason. Still trying to figure it out. Love to tell you all about it some day. Keep the faith.
36 posted on 05/01/2014 4:45:43 PM PDT by PowderMonkey (WILL WORK FOR AMMO)
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To: SeekAndFind

I think people need to be wary of buying in to “extra-biblical” experiences and circumstances. What we need to know now, we find in the Bible. Beyond that, situations fall into the soothsayer category and, even though it’s interesting, it’s demonic.

Like this kid in the movie, I’m a P.K. I’d have come up with the same “report” he did just from having listened to my dad’s and uncles’ sermons and singing hymns. It’s pretty basic stuff — streets of gold, rivers, winged angels, Jesus with brown hair like the paintings, etc.

(I’d like to know if this kid saw my cats Homer, Duke, and Duchess.)


37 posted on 05/01/2014 4:46:13 PM PDT by MayflowerMadam
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To: SeekAndFind

I have sought wisdom in this matter through reading Scripture and prayer, and asking for wisdom. The only New Testament near death experience is the Apostle Paul’s description, in II Corinthians 12:1-10, of one who went to heaven and returned, and was admonished not to reveal anything about heaven. That’s as far as I wish to carry the matter.


38 posted on 05/01/2014 4:48:29 PM PDT by righttackle44 (Take scalps. Leave the bodies as a warning.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Bookmarked.


39 posted on 05/01/2014 4:52:03 PM PDT by Inyo-Mono (NRA)
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To: I want the USA back

Jesus came back from not just death but Sheol.


40 posted on 05/01/2014 4:57:36 PM PDT by MHGinTN
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