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To: SeekAndFind; Fichori; tpanther; Gordon Greene; Ethan Clive Osgoode; betty boop; Alamo-Girl; ...
As aptly noted by Drs. J. P. Moreland and Gary Habermas (Beyond Death: Exploring the Evidence for Immortality), “the subjective texture of our conscious mental experiences—the feeling of pain, the experience of sound, the awareness of color—is different from anything that is simply physical. If the world were only made of matter these subjective aspects of consciousness would not exist. But they do exist! So there must be more to the world than matter.” Indeed, if we are merely material, libertarian freedom (freedom of the will) does not exist. Instead we are fatalistically relegated to a world in which everything is a function of factors such as brain chemistry and genetics. Reason itself is reduced to the status of conditioned reflex. Moreover, the very concept of love is rendered meaningless.
29 posted on 05/01/2014 4:22:11 PM PDT by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith....)
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To: metmom; betty boop; TXnMA
So very true, dear sister in Christ!

A metaphysical naturalist cannot deal with qualia - things which can only be experienced and cannot be conveyed, e.g. love/hate, pain/pleasure.

He also cannot deal with mind, soul or spirit and must declare them to be epiphenomena of the physical brain. Epiphenomena are secondary phenomena which cannot cause anything to happen.

If he really buys such nonsense, why would he accept an award - after all his brain did it? How could he ever justify punishing the whole physical body for something the brain did? LOLOL!

55 posted on 05/01/2014 8:50:54 PM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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