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To: annalex; Alex Murphy; bkaycee; blue-duncan; boatbums; caww; count-your-change; CynicalBear; ...
Well, God will forgive her because He didn't put any conditions on being married in the Catholic church on anyone.

The priest and the RCC and take it and put it somewhere. She's legally married, she is not in a state of sin. Separating from her husband, which goes against clear Scriptural command would be sin.

And you claim divorce is not a sin? Pray tell, show us where in the CCC it says that. Then why annulments?

1 Corinthians 7:3-5 The husband should give to his wife her conjugal rights, and likewise the wife to her husband. For the wife does not have authority over her own body, but the husband does. Likewise the husband does not have authority over his own body, but the wife does. Do not deprive one another, except perhaps by agreement for a limited time, that you may devote yourselves to prayer; but then come together again, so that Satan may not tempt you because of your lack of self-control.

1 Corinthians 7:10-16 To the married I give this charge (not I, but the Lord):the wife should not separate from her husband (but if she does, she should remain unmarried or else be reconciled to her husband), and the husband should not divorce his wife.

To the rest I say (I, not the Lord) that if any brother has a wife who is an unbeliever, and she consents to live with him, he should not divorce her. If any woman has a husband who is an unbeliever, and he consents to live with her, she should not divorce him. For the unbelieving husband is made holy because of his wife, and the unbelieving wife is made holy because of her husband. Otherwise your children would be unclean, but as it is, they are holy. But if the unbelieving partner separates, let it be so. In such cases the brother or sister is not enslaved. God has called you to peace. For how do you know, wife, whether you will save your husband? Or how do you know, husband, whether you will save your wife?

Why do you teach things contrary to Scripture? Why does the Catholic church teach things contrary to Scripture?

That's forcing people to sin. Real sin. Not the made up stuff the Catholic church has called sin.

88 posted on 04/30/2014 6:04:46 AM PDT by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith....)
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To: metmom; annalex

The passage from I Cor 7:10-16 is talking about {assuming is the case of} a “normal” marriage, a marriage where there is no abuse. It must be, or else one would be forced to conclude a woman (or a man) who divorces their spouse because they are suffering regular, physical abuse has “sinned”. IOW, I seriously doubt our Lord expects a woman to stay married to a man (live with a man)’who beats her on a regular basis.

Besides this isn’t even the circumstance here. Annalex was saying that the woman in the OP should separate from her husband until and unless they either get a dispensation for their marriage or they get their marriage convalidated. Which isn’t in contradiction with Scripture in fact is supported by it (I Cor 7:3-5). (Assuming both agree to the separation)


97 posted on 04/30/2014 6:37:47 AM PDT by FourtySeven (47)
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To: metmom; Alex Murphy; bkaycee; blue-duncan; boatbums; caww; count-your-change; CynicalBear
God will forgive her

She came to the Catholic Church asking for absolution. What God will do I don't know, but if she asks the Church something she should be satisfied with the rules that exist in the Church.

She's legally married, she is not in a state of sin

One does not follow from the other. She is both legally married and in the state of sin.

show us where in the CCC it says that. Then why annulments?

See Canon 2383 and around it. Also read the scripture you already quoted.

Annulment is not divorce. Annulment is the recognition that an apparent marriage is not really marriage in the eye of God. If a marriage had been initiated properly, the spouses may divorce if a grave reason exists, but they will not obtain annulment.

110 posted on 04/30/2014 6:21:01 PM PDT by annalex (fear them not)
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