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Ugh. I’ve come to expect Roman Catholic FReepers to be arrogant, but your injecting your denominational arrogance into this discussion within just a few comments ... is just pathetic.

That's not much of an argument.

I don't have a "denomination." The Church is the Body of Christ. You are making a false distinction.

And try not to derail conversations like you are doing here.

You're derailing the conversation.

The article clearly describes what Vines is arguing and what grounds he is using to make his argument.

It also outlines the response of the SBC to his argument.

My comments are precisely on topic and on point: Vines is using core Reformation principles to argue against traditional Christian morality.

The SBC response is to either sidestep like Walker or, like Mohler, fall back on 2,000 years of traditional Scriptural interpretation.

That's fascinating, wouldn't you say?

You wrote, “The Church is the Body of Christ.”

That is true. The Church is indeed the Body of Christ, and the Body of Christ is The Church.

Now, if by “The Church” you’re meaning the Roman Catholic Church ... well, then, you’d be incorrect.

The Body of Christ includes all those adopted into God’s family, all those who follow Christ, and not just those in your denomination.

My comments are precisely on topic and on point: Vines is using core Reformation principles to argue against traditional Christian morality. The SBC response is to either sidestep like Walker or, like Mohler, fall back on 2,000 years of traditional Scriptural interpretation. That's fascinating, wouldn't you say?

Fascinating for you maybe, but not for me. There WAS no sidestep since disputing Vines' novel idea is easily done by appealing to Scripture, in the first place, and tradition, since the true church of Jesus Christ has never strayed from His holy word from the start - the start of the WORLD, that is. Vines may be claiming to use what you call "core Reformation principles", but sola Scriptura is ALL that is needed to show his error. Personal interpretation of Scripture is NOT, no matter how many times y'all toss it out there, a core principle of the Reformation. Your straw-man argument is what is pretty weak.

The Roman Catholic church didn't INVENT the idea that homosexual sin was wrong, they already knew it because God already SAID it going back to Moses' time. The real conundrum Catholics have is trying to rectify what they SAY their church says and what their church actually DOES. Shouldn't that be the most important thing?