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To: RegulatorCountry

thanks for responding,

first, hearsay is a statement that a person of unknown provenance made regarding what another person said or did

second, the folks relaying this were not strangers, they were trusted friends, they had never been known to make a false utterance, they made the statement as a form of testimony of their protestant faith, which I believe to be exemplary and strong.

third, I was unfamiliar with their service, however they were very familiar with their service because they were “church going protestants’ something I have found to be lacking on the forum,

fourth, I am intimately familiar with the Catholic Mass and know exactly what is said and transpires in the Mass,

fifth, I have stated the standard several times and have clarified when asked,

sixth, remember I want Jim to compare what happens in ONE particular Catholic Mass in our little corner of nowhere to ANY protestant service anywhere in the US.

seventh, the site owner is well aware of the challenge and recon he may like some protestants step up with a matching challenge,

eighth, yeah right.. I am the one who is “unserious’ because I have paid my own unserious $250 to Jim and yet not yourself or any other protestant, including you, has anted up.

eighth, I have adequately described my purpose previously:

“I wont go into how badly some on the forum reacted to my mentioning it, maybe because it came from protestants giving testimony about what their experience was in a Mass versus their own experience as church going protestants in their own services.

“It sounds interesting and if it increases the awareness Catholics for protestant scripture in their services and protestant awareness of Catholic scripture at Mass then it may be a good thing.

“Plus Jim wins hopefully either way.”

I really don’t care R-C whether you ‘approve’ or not.

Don’t ante-up, be a quitter, don’t try to prove me wrong, there are others ‘obviously not you’ who have not quit.

For the Greater Glory of God


876 posted on 04/10/2014 7:22:53 AM PDT by LurkingSince'98 (Ad Majoram Dei Gloriam = FOR THE GREATER GLORY OF GOD)
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To: LurkingSince'98
first, hearsay is a statement that a person of unknown provenance made regarding what another person said or did

Hearsay is repeating what someone else said with no means of verification.

fourth, I am intimately familiar with the Catholic Mass and know exactly what is said and transpires in the Mass,

Wonderful. You'll have no difficulty in posting this for comparison purposes then, I take it?

892 posted on 04/10/2014 8:16:41 AM PDT by RegulatorCountry
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To: LurkingSince'98; RegulatorCountry; daniel1212; Alamo-Girl; Gamecock; Elsie; metmom
hearsay is a statement that a person of unknown provenance made regarding what another person said or did

Keep that definition in mind - I'm going to refer to it later in this post.

I am intimately familiar with the Catholic Mass and know exactly what is said and transpires in the Mass

Good for you. Can you prove to the rest of us, in a verifiable way, what was actually spoken in the mass you attend? Please don't give us the script of what should have been said. Please provide a verifiable transcript of what was actually said. That's what you're expecting Protestants to provide. Will you be providing it yourself?

remember I want Jim to compare what happens in ONE particular Catholic Mass in our little corner of nowhere to ANY protestant service anywhere in the US.

Has Jim agreed to judge this little contest of yours? Will Protestants get to count each time that the word "amen" is spoken as a Scripture citation? If Jim's going to judge this contest, have you submitted your own transcript of the actual mass conducted at your parish to him yet? Right now, all we have is your unverified word that there's any scripture used in the mass at your local parish. As you yourself defined rules in post #844, it can 't be trusted if it can't be verified. By the definition you yourself provided in post #876 and reproduced at the top of this post, your challenge is based entirely on HEARSAY until you can prove your own mass contained any scripture.

FWIW, I'm not pinging Jim Robinson because I happen to respect the man's attention and time. I think that this contest would be a colossal waste of his time, and I hope you didn't donate $250 to gain his attention in this little spitting contest. Either you changed your mind about Free Republic's moderation and mission in the last week, or IMO you're trying to bribe someone into applying the band-aid to your butt-hurt.

But let's assume for the moment that you are correct. Let us pretend that you've submitted your own verified transcript to Jim, we've submitted our own verified transcripts, Jim has read them all, and Jim has publicly judged that your "little Catholic Church in the middle of absolutely nowhere" conducts a mass with "more Scripture" than all of our Protestant worship services. Did all of that scripture lead your Sunday-mass-attending Catholics to vote for conservative causes and for conservative candidates in far greater numbers than our Sunday-worship-attending Protestants already vote for? How about a contest to see whose religious tradition supports a constitutional representative republic in the USA better, and can bring this country back from socialism faster?

Now there's a contest that we all could benefit from, and one that compliments Free Republic's core mission.

893 posted on 04/10/2014 8:40:26 AM PDT by Alex Murphy ("the defacto Leader of the FR Calvinist Protestant Brigades")
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To: LurkingSince'98
first, hearsay is a statement that a person of unknown provenance made regarding what another person said or did

It ain't quite fractal; but, yet again, you are wrong.

Mother Theresa herself could have told you something; but when you repeat it to another; it's hearsay.


Strange that a fellow who knows what a WAGER is, fails to admit knowing what HEARSAY is.


(Faulty catechism perhaps?)

918 posted on 04/10/2014 11:03:07 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: LurkingSince'98
second, the folks relaying this were not strangers, they were trusted friends, they had never been known to make a false utterance, they made the statement as a form of testimony of their protestant faith, which I believe to be exemplary and strong.

Doesn't matter: it's STILL hearsay when YOU repeat it to others.

919 posted on 04/10/2014 11:04:38 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: LurkingSince'98
sixth, remember I want Jim to compare what happens in ONE particular Catholic Mass in our little corner of nowhere to ANY protestant service anywhere in the US.

Maybe he don't wanna play with your TarBaby.

920 posted on 04/10/2014 11:05:29 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: LurkingSince'98; RegulatorCountry; Elsie
Don’t ante-up, be a quitter, don’t try to prove me wrong, there are others ‘obviously not you’ who have not quit.

Ummm...doesn't someone have to FIRST agree to play the game in order to later be called a "quitter"? If I play poker and don't "ante up", I am passing on playing that hand. Quitting, on the other hand, is throwing my cards down after I anted up and got dealt, see I have a crummy hand, and fold. BIG DIFFERENCE. I hope you see that. If I don't want to join your pre-loaded game, I'm not quitting if I say I won't play.

1,051 posted on 04/10/2014 9:59:07 PM PDT by boatbums (Simul justis et peccator.)
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