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To: Alamo-Girl

I agree the Scriptures quoted will multiply like baby bunnies.

these are from the part of the Mass immediately after the Daily readings that you mentioned:

All: I believe in one God, the Father Almighty, maker of heaven and earth, (Gen 14:19) of all things visible and invisible. (Col 1:16) I believe in one Lord Jesus Christ, the only Begotten Son of God, (Luke 1:35) born of the Father before all ages, God from God, Light from Light, True God from True God, begotten not made, consubstantial with the Father; (Heb 1:3) through him all things were made. (John 1:2-3) For us men and for our salvation he came down from heaven: (John 3:13) and by the power of the Holy Spirit he was incarnate of the Virgin Mary, (Matt 1:18) and became man. For our sake he was crucified under Pontius Pilate, (John 19:16) he suffered death and was buried, and rose again on the third day in accordance with the Scriptures. (1 Cor 15:3-4) He ascended into heaven (Luke 24:51) and is seated at the right hand of the Father. (Col 3:1) He will come again in glory to judge the living and the dead (2 Tim 4:1) and his kingdom will have no end. (Luke 1:33) I believe in the Holy Spirit, the Lord, the giver of Life, (Acts 2:17) who proceeds from the Father and the Son, (John 14:16) who with the Father and Son is worshiped and glorified. He has spoken through the prophets. (1 Peter 1:10-11) I believe in one holy, catholic and apostolic Church. (Rom 12:5) I confess one baptism for the forgiveness of sins (Acts 2:38) and I look forward to the resurrection of the dead and the life of the world to come. (Rom 6:5) Amen

Liturgy of the Eucharist

[The gifts are brought to the altar. These include the bread and wine and the offering collected from the people.] (Malachi 3:10)

Priest: Blessed are you, Lord, God of all creation. Through your goodness we have this bread to offer, which earth has given and human hands have made. (Eccl. 3:13) It will become for us the bread of life. (John 6:35)

People: Blessed be God forever. (Ps 68:36)

Priest: Blessed are you, Lord, God of all creation. Through your goodness we have this wine to offer, fruit of the vine and work of human hands. It will become our spiritual drink. (Luke 22:17-18)

People: Blessed be God forever. (Ps 68:36)

Priest: Pray, brethren, that our sacrifice may be acceptable to God, the almighty Father. (Heb. 12:28)

People: May the Lord accept the sacrifice at your hands for the praise and glory of his name, for our sake and the good of all his holy Church. (Ps 50:23)

Priest: The Lord be with you.
People: And with your spirit.
Priest: Lift up your hearts.
People: We lift them up to the Lord. (Lam 3:41)
Priest: Let us give thanks to the Lord our God. (Col 3:17)
People: It is right and just. (Col 1:3)

Preface Acclamation

All: Holy, holy, holy Lord, God of hosts. Heaven and earth are full of your glory. (Is 6:3) Hosanna in the highest. Blessed is he who comes in the name of the Lord. Hosanna in the highest. (Mark 11:9-10)

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The statement I made that created the furor was:
“I wouldn’t know since I have never been to a protestant service, however, I have been told by protestants that there is more Scripture in a Catholic Mass than they hear from their preacher or pastor on any given Sunday.”

These are church going protestants who I consider very faithful and truthful. I believe that they were talking about the whole entire Mass.

So we need to see the totality of Scripture in EVERY Catholic Mass versus the totality of scripture in ANY protestant service.

Thanks

Ad Majoram Dei Gloriam


798 posted on 04/09/2014 9:22:04 PM PDT by LurkingSince'98 (Ad Majoram Dei Gloriam = FOR THE GREATER GLORY OF GOD)
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To: LurkingSince'98
I've attended Mass quite a bit and they have never quoted the Scriptural basis of the phrases in the liturgy as you have here. But they do quote the Scriptural basis when reading from the podium (Old Testament, Epistles, etc.) or from the Gospel.

Protestant services likewise do not quote the Scriptural basis for the phrases used in prayers, hymns and such. And the services can be - often are - much longer than a Mass. The pastors themselves often speak a familiar verse without quoting it. In Morris' sermon I was only looking for the actual quotes of Scripture.

To be compared fairly, one cannot look at the entire Mass but only the Sermon portion of a Protestant Service. And if you take the entire (what might be several hours long at Gateway) Protestant Service in consideration to gather up Scripture references as well as quotes, the result would weigh very heavily in favor of the Protestant side.

799 posted on 04/09/2014 9:36:37 PM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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To: LurkingSince'98
These are church going protestants who I consider very faithful and truthful. I believe that they were talking about the whole entire Mass.

So we need to see the totality of Scripture in EVERY Catholic Mass versus the totality of scripture in ANY protestant service.

Moving the goalposts again, I see.

First it was that there is more Scripture read in any mass than any Protestant service. Now it's snippets of phrases that someone says that are allegedly supported by Scripture verses?

But if that's going to be the criteria....OK.....

817 posted on 04/10/2014 4:35:18 AM PDT by metmom (...fixing our eyes on Jesus, the Author and Perfecter of our faith....)
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To: LurkingSince'98

Yes; I’ve been in Catholic services, and yes Scripture is read, and yes the congregation does the call and response thing with the priest.

And yes, it was all very impressive. The words were all memorized (by both sides) and could be repeated, in unison, quite distinctly and clear.

There was a LOT of standing up, and sitting down; too.


829 posted on 04/10/2014 5:22:44 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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