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To: af_vet_1981; LurkingSince'98
Fundamentalist Baptists are not Protestants. They believe they never rebelled against the Catholic Church to "reform" their theology and religion but rather are descended from New Testament apostolic churches. All churches are always local churches and Baptist is a distinctive rather than a denomination.

I know that, but the RC challenger is not into making distinctions, as RCs count even Unitarians and Mormons as Prots.

It cannot be historically proven but solves the problem of legitimacy, which Protestants can never enjoy except as rebellious Catholics.

You mean having historical descent and being the stewards of Scripture means such is the assuredly infallible church, dissent from which is rebellion against God. Which premise means Rome cannot solve the problem of legitimacy, but others can.

we all know Protestants by definition can never be the original New Testament churches.

but we all know Protestants Roman Catholicism can never be considered the original New Testament churches. It is in a stage of critical deformation that was progressive .

1,049 posted on 04/10/2014 9:33:41 PM PDT by daniel1212 (Come to the Lord Jesus as a contrite damned+destitute sinner, trust Him to save you, then live 4 Him)
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To: daniel1212
I know that, but the RC challenger is not into making distinctions, as RCs count even Unitarians and Mormons as Prots.

What else shall we call all the churches that did not originate out of the Reformation period ? They are evidently not original. Unitarians, Mormons and other pseudoChristian heretical churches are taking the rebellion to the next level. Are the Pentecostal, Holiness, Assemblies of God Protestant ? Are the Calvary Chapel churches Protestant ? If you start your own tax exempt church in a home, office, or public school building, is it Protestant ? Is Protestant only Anglican, Episcopalian, Lutheran, and Presbyterian ? Can we throw in Methodist ? Whatever they are, they are not New Testament churches descended from the apostles, and that just makes me sad.

You mean having historical descent and being the stewards of Scripture means such is the assuredly infallible church, dissent from which is rebellion against God. Which premise means Rome cannot solve the problem of legitimacy, but others can.

The churches of Asia in Revelation are the answer to that question and without any doubt, every one of them was a legitimate New Testament apostolic church. Do you believe in one holy catholic apostolic church according to the Scriptures ? Was Jesus' prayer to the Father rejected ? God forbid. We know the Protestant model is not an answer to it. Where does that model lead ? Joseph Smith, the American Pioneer rebelling against all known churches and starting LDS, another gospel with an angel's help. Who could have seen that coming ?

Roman Catholicism can never be considered the original New Testament churches. It is in a stage of critical deformation that was progressive .

Then unless you hold that the Fundamentalists are correct in their doctrine of the Church, and that they are the only true New Testament churches (and it appears Westboro Baptist Church was of that persuasion), you have no unbroken chain of apostolic New Testament churches. Do you then hold that Jesus prayers for Peter and the Church failed ? God forbid. Have you considered in your heart that you could be mistaken about the Catholic Church, whatever sins history shows us ?

1,074 posted on 04/11/2014 4:18:13 AM PDT by af_vet_1981 (The bus came by and I got on, That's when it all began)
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