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Posted on 04/05/2014 5:57:23 AM PDT by Gamecock
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Numbers 22:28
And the LORD opened the mouth of the ass, and she said unto Balaam, What have I done unto thee, that thou hast smitten me these three times?
More facts assumed - not found on the evidence table.
They were created SINLESS; something that CAN be shown from Scripture.
Quite the contrary, as you are missing the critical difference btwn the helpful consideration of what was been written and formulated as doctrine, and examining the warrant for such as noble Bereans would, versus hold such writings as themselves assuredly determining what Scripture says.
Next question: does "the Paraclete, the Holy Ghost, whom the Father will send in my name, he will teach you all things, and bring all things to your mind, whatsoever I shall have said to you. (John 14:26) say that the Church will continue to be inspired by the Holy Ghost to the extent that whatever is on the mind of the Church is as good as if Christ is saying it? Or is it the case where a Protestant must reach somewhere in the "traditions" of Luther and the rest of the charlatans to avoid taking this scripture as written?
A false premise and a false dilemma. Your premise is that John 14:26 means a perpetual assuredly infallible magisterium is promised, presumably as necessary for progressive revelation and understanding and preservation of Truth, neither of which is the case in Scripture, versus writings being established as Scripture and the assured revealed word of God, and thus being the supreme standard for obedience, and for testing and establishing Truth claims thereby
Secondly, one need not look to Luther and company to see the fallacy of your premise, upon which basis you hold that all who deny this error are charlatans.
What is your basis for assurance that Rome is the one true and infallible church that you see Jn. 14:26 promising?
It would seem that in essence you hold that being the historical instrument and steward of Scripture, which Rome claims to be, means such are the assuredly infallible determiners and interpreters of Truth.
Great again; as I like to point out, "faith is what we do".
But which is denied when Rome's actions speak louder than her words to the contrary.
So again, when someone tells me that "baptism does not save because to baptize is to work", or that "good works do not save because it is like purchasing salvation" you will see through the cheap illusion that these "objections" construct?
I see thru both the illusion that the act itself effects regeneration and formal justification based on interior goodness, even if done by an atheist on a soul that is without moral cognizance, as well as the premise that if any response by man is involved in conversion then it constitutes works.
Conversion has God "purifying the hearts by faith," (Acts 17:9) but even believing is a volitional act, not done in a coma, yet it is both motivated and enabled by God. (Jn. 6:44; 12:32; Acts 11:18; 16:14) The soul does what he otherwise would not and could not do. And in confessing that there is essentially no difference btwn moving one's neurons and tongue to confess faith in the crucified and risen Divine Lord Jesus of Scripture, and moving one's legs to do so in baptism.
However, neither the volitional faith response and confession of faith merits salvation, but it is faith in the heart that man believes unto righteousness, so that even a immobilized mute can be saved on his death bed, But to him that worketh not, but believeth on him that justifieth the unGodly, his faith is counted for righteousness. (Romans 4:5; cf. Titus 3:5) But works of faith justify one as having such faith. (Heb. 6:9)
“I’ve been told, by a Catholic, to ignore the following...”
bad cut and past kimosabe - what I did post is that the Fair Use Exemption allows excerpting from the copyright.
The bottom of the Scripture I quoted states:
Excerpts from the Lectionary for Mass for Use in the Dioceses of the United States of America, second typical edition © 2001, 1998, 1997, 1986, 1970 Confraternity of Christian Doctrine, Inc., Washington, DC. Used with permission. All rights reserved. No portion of this text may be reproduced by any means without permission in writing from the copyright owner.
Be advised that any and all posts that I or any other Catholics make from the Lectionary published by the CCD are exempt from permissions under:
1) The Fair Use Exemption as stated several times, and
2) under the following CCD permissions:
One-time print use
No written permission is required for one-time use.
The official liturgical text must be followed. All excerpts must be verbatim from the text, including capitalization and punctuation. The poetic structure of those readings written in verse (for example, Psalms, Wisdom, Isaiah, etc.) must be preserved in verse as printed.
The appropriate acknowledgment must be printed either beneath the reading(s) or with the other acknowledgments:
“Excerpts from the Lectionary for Mass for Use in the Dioceses of the United States of America, second typical edition © 2001, 1998, 1997, 1986, 1970 Confraternity of Christian Doctrine, Inc., Washington, DC. Used with permission. All rights reserved. No portion of this text may be reproduced by any means without permission in writing from the copyright owner.”
Web and other digital Media Usage
No permission or fee is needed to display the daily readings on a website through an RSS feed.
Now Elise you have brought up the allegation that I was using this in some way not proper - that is not the case.
http://www.usccb.org/bible/permissions/#print
If you do feel strongly that I or any other Catholic are abusing the various copyrights of the CCD then I encourage you to report us to:
Associate Director, Permissions CCD
3211 Fourth Street, NE
Washington, DC 20017-1194
OR
feel free to call them directly and complain at 202-541-3098
Please Elise do it .... it’s for the children, and ...
For the Greater Glory of God
I fail to see the "apostolic tradition" in these practices.
to All,
I have been accused by Elise of doing something improper, regarding my excerpting from the CCD Lectionary, not once but several times.
Please note that the bottom of the Scripture I quoted states:
Excerpts from the Lectionary for Mass for Use in the Dioceses of the United States of America, second typical edition © 2001, 1998, 1997, 1986, 1970 Confraternity of Christian Doctrine, Inc., Washington, DC. Used with permission. All rights reserved. No portion of this text may be reproduced by any means without permission in writing from the copyright owner.
Be advised that any and all posts that I or any other Catholics make from the Lectionary published by the CCD are exempt from permissions under:
1) The Fair Use Exemption as stated several times, and
2) under the following CCD permissions:
One-time print use
No written permission is required for one-time use.
The official liturgical text must be followed. All excerpts must be verbatim from the text, including capitalization and punctuation. The poetic structure of those readings written in verse (for example, Psalms, Wisdom, Isaiah, etc.) must be preserved in verse as printed.
The appropriate acknowledgment must be printed either beneath the reading(s) or with the other acknowledgments:
Excerpts from the Lectionary for Mass for Use in the Dioceses of the United States of America, second typical edition © 2001, 1998, 1997, 1986, 1970 Confraternity of Christian Doctrine, Inc., Washington, DC. Used with permission. All rights reserved. No portion of this text may be reproduced by any means without permission in writing from the copyright owner.
Web and other digital Media Usage
No permission or fee is needed to display the daily readings on a website through an RSS feed.
Now Elise has brought up the allegation that I was using this in some way not proper - that is not the case.
http://www.usccb.org/bible/permissions/#print
If ANY of you feel strongly that I or any other Catholic are abusing the various copyrights of the CCD then I encourage you to report us to:
Associate Director, Permissions CCD
3211 Fourth Street, NE
Washington, DC 20017-1194
OR
feel free to call them directly and complain at 202-541-3098
Please do it .... its for the children, and ...
For the Greater Glory of God
Have you filled out the requisite form?
“The threads back open, folks!
This was strange.
Any reason given?”
Yes, the thread is back open - any guesses why??
1) It was outrageous that the Admin Mod chose to close the thread because Salvation and I complained that were were being blatantly discussed in the threads without being addressed.
2) It was doubly outrageous that we were the only two posters called out for “spamming” no less. That is a typical Hillary Clinton, Debbie Wasserman and Saul Alinsky technique of isolating and blaming the victim(s).
3) well maybe after being compared to Saul Alinsky someone woke up all I know is I got several different reasons (excuses) from the mods.
4) Too late - damage done - contest ends right now.
In addition, the contest is over because NOT ONE protestant ever ante-ed up and offered to put up the $750 if they lost.
Also, e-mailed JR who received the e-mail but who failed to respond so I guess he was not interested either.
Plus all I heard was complaints and lots of talk but little action, except for Alamo-Girl who is always helpful, courteous and kind - kind of like a Girl Scout.
bye back to work and Holy Week....
For the Greater Glory of God
I deleted your recent FReepmail without reading it, as I don’t usually read unsolicited FReepmails sent to this handle. If the contents were safe for public reading, please feel free to repost it on the thread.
I'd much rather search the deeps of mine own intellect and pontificate some verbage that is vacous yet sounds pompous, and then stick my OWN disclaimer on it; so no one will try to take credit for the countless hours spent by flickering candlelight.
On second thought; I'll place my IMPRIMATUR upon it; setting Willy free to roam the seas of Liberty - as long as I still get credit for it.
Excellent post.
Poor man: tormented by the twin demons of Cut & Paste.
Worries what others may think of him.
Tries to justify what legally needs no justification.
Catholicism gets it wrong again.
Jesus said He came from the Father. That alone would make Him sinless.
Wasn't it the Perry Mason show that always got the perp to identify him(her)self with a slip of the tongue?
So; you are seemingly upset because you were not notified, but NOT, apparently, about being BLATANTLY discussed.
HMMMmmm...
And...
...a thousand pardons to Salvation for not addressing you in the previous post.
Things tend to be missed when Paste & Cut do their little dance routine.
Don't worry; for another windmill will come along this way soon.
So give the RM a break and quit yer whining. Quit being so easily offended. Are you adults or not?
It was doubly outrageous that we were the only two posters called out for spamming no less. That is a typical Hillary Clinton, Debbie Wasserman and Saul Alinsky technique of isolating and blaming the victim(s).
Did it ever occur to you that nobody else was hitting the abuse button?
Maybe that's the reason why nobody else was mentioned.
Too late - damage done - contest ends right now. = *I'm taking my ball and going home right now.*
Boo hoo.....
WHAT???
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