I waylaid my current fave friar, and he agreed with me that "physical" is too confusing a word to use. We tossed "actual" around, and I agreed to do some etymological/philological research, since I enjoy that.
His contribution was that when all the thrashing around is done the only thing to say is something like "IHS is there -- body, blood, soul, divinity -- sacramentally."
I thought you would be interested.
In other unfinished business:
I think it important to view (and to criticize, if you must) "Marian devotion" in the context of devotion to /cult of All the saints, even the unofficial ones. Yes, the difference of the Immaculate Conception is a big deal 'n all, but other than that, there are maybe 144,000, maybe ten thousand times ten thousand, in any case a great many saint. In my daily devotions I invoke her, but I invoke practically a whole baseball team of other friends a well.
What she is in a big way, we can hope to be also, though probably not in such a big way.
I think that's a fair statement of the Catholic attitude.
Which Luterans and Anglicans say. But i is not the same, while the NT does not show the Lord's supper as being the source and summit of their faith, and the means of gaining spiritual and eternal life. The only manifest description of it focuses on the church as the body of Christ, showing the Lord death by its communal meal of sharing, as described here and the distinction briefly in many posts .
In my daily devotions I invoke her, but I invoke practically a whole baseball team of other friends a well. What she is in a big way, we can hope to be also, though probably not in such a big way. I think that's a fair statement of the Catholic attitude.
It is a fair statement, but totally absent from Scripture, in which the only intercessor btwn man and Heaven is Christ, who is the all-sufficient high priest who ever lives to make intercession for the saints (Heb. 7:25) - the only one said to do so in heaven - who is uniquely able to as One who was tempted in all points as we are, yet with sin. (Heb. 2:14-18; 4:14-16)
And as a mark of His deity souls are directed to call upon Him: "For whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved," (Rm. 10:13) not saying Mary etc., and by whose blood the believer has direct access to the Father,(Heb. 10:19) whom the Lord directed us to address in prayer, and the Spirit cries to, (Gal. 4:6) and Paul knelt before, (Eph. 3:14) and no one else.
All of which has been said, while RC supper for PTDS must resort to arguments from silence and erroneous extrapolation.