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To: OneWingedShark
"I don't think you have a good grasp of Protestantism. . . "

The Anti-Christ, Anti-Christian, Pharisee Approved, Luther Subset of the Old Testament, is not the Old Testament.

The Septuagint preexisted the incarnation of Jesus Christ.

Jesus Christ took the Sadducee and Pharisees to task for adding to the law and many other things.

If they had added uninspired Scripture to the Word of God how can anyone believe Jesus Christ wouldn't have pointed that out ? Especially anyone who claims to base everything they believe on Scripture Alone?

No Apostle ever said there was anything in the Septuagint that shouldn't be there and the Bereans were praised for searching the Scriptures, Scriptures that for the Greek Bereans were without a doubt the Greek Septuagint. It's laughable to claim anti-Christ, anti-Christian, Pharisees who survived the destruction of Jerusalem and therefore could not possibly have had any legitimate authority from the then dead Jewish priesthood have more authority than Jesus Christ. The only authority this theoretical group had was whatever they granted their themselves.

If you obey that group of Self-Appointed anti-Christ, anti-Christian, Pharisees who had no connection whatsoever to the legitimate Jewish authorities with regard to the Old Testament rather than accepting the fact that neither Jesus Christ or the Apostles ever said a thing about there being uninspired Scriptures in the Septuagint, then you are by definition a Pharisee, not a Christian.

If you believe your fellow anti-Christ, anti-Christian, Pharisees are correct and that the Bible as translated into many, many, languages and distributed throughout the world up until the time of Luther contained error, then you have to believe not only that Christ and the Apostles didn't care that the Old Testament contained uninspired books, but also that the Holy Spirit cannot and did not protect the Word of God from the inclusion of error for roughly eighteen hundred years.

If you believe that, so be it. What logically follows is that the Holy Spirit is imperfect and therefore cannot be a part of the Trinity. Since you base that denial of the perfection of the Holy Spirit on your own personal superior to the Holy Spirit Self and Self Alone acceptance of what anti-Christ Pharisees may have said, you elevate your Self into the Trinity as coequal with God the Father and God the Son replacing the Holy Spirit with the Holy Self.

Hence, you worship the Trinity of God the Father, God the Son, and God the Self.

Do as you see fit but you when you hear Jesus Christ say, "I never knew you", you won't be able to plead ignorance since neither Christ or the Apostles ever told anyone to throw out a portion of His Holy Word.

35 posted on 03/28/2014 2:35:44 PM PDT by Rashputin (Jesus Christ doesn't evacuate His troops, He leads them to victory.)
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To: Rashputin
No Apostle ever said there was anything in the Septuagint that shouldn't be there and the Bereans were praised for searching the Scriptures, Scriptures that for the Greek Bereans were without a doubt the Greek Septuagint. It's laughable to claim anti-Christ, anti-Christian, Pharisees who survived the destruction of Jerusalem and therefore could not possibly have had any legitimate authority from the then dead Jewish priesthood have more authority than Jesus Christ. The only authority this theoretical group had was whatever they granted their themselves.

What are you talking about?
Who's saying anything about the Septuagint?

If you believe that, so be it. What logically follows is that the Holy Spirit is imperfect and therefore cannot be a part of the Trinity.

I don't follow: I've not said a thing regarding the Septuagint, nor do I disbelieve the [existence of the] Holy Spirit, and your connection of these seems to be very tenuous.

Do as you see fit but you when you hear Jesus Christ say, "I never knew you", you won't be able to plead ignorance since neither Christ or the Apostles ever told anyone to throw out a portion of His Holy Word.

Are you saying that God cannot use a single book, or a single passage, to bring someone to himself?
Scripture itself seems to illustrate the contrary with the story recounted in Acts 8 of Phillip and the Ethiopian eunuch reading Isiah.

37 posted on 03/28/2014 2:50:57 PM PDT by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: Rashputin
Jesus Christ took the Sadducee and Pharisees to task for adding to the law and many other things.

Are you talking about where Christ said call no man 'father', as in 'holy father'?

45 posted on 03/28/2014 4:05:47 PM PDT by Just mythoughts (Jesus said Luke 17:32 Remember Lot's wife.)
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To: Rashputin

Well Jerome seemed to have no problem using Hebrew manuscripts for his OT. And it seems you don’t agree with his argued canon.

I guess you are asserting there never existed Hebrew written scriptures before the LXX? And as such never used by Jews in Judea? The same Jews who fought against Hellenism?

In Luke 4, is Jesus Christ reading from a Hebrew scroll or a Greek one? If a Greek scroll is He reciting Isaiah in Greek or Hebrew for all to hear in the synagogue?


74 posted on 03/28/2014 11:59:08 PM PDT by redleghunter (But let your word 'yes be 'yes,' and your 'no be 'no.' Anything more than this is from the evil one.)
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To: Rashputin

Sure got a LOT of ‘ifs’ in here!

You sure that you have enough straw for this undertaking?


97 posted on 03/29/2014 1:53:23 AM PDT by Elsie (Heck is where people, who don't believe in Gosh, think they are not going...)
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To: Rashputin
Reading the mind of another Freeper is a form of "making it personal."

Discuss the issues all you want, but do not make it personal.

118 posted on 03/29/2014 8:54:33 AM PDT by Religion Moderator
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