Posted on 03/28/2014 8:18:05 AM PDT by NKP_Vet
The book of Revelation, quipped Ambrose Bierce, is "a famous book in which St. John the Divine concealed all that he knew. The revealing is done by the commentators, who know nothing." And G. K. Chesterton wrote, "Though St. John the Evangelist saw many strange monsters in his vision, he saw no creature so wild as one of his own commentators."
Indeed, the book of Revelation, also known as the Apocalypse, is fascinating and mysterious. Like an enchanting woman, the book attracts admirers of every sort. Many attempt outlandish feats of interpretation in order to gain attention. They usually do more damage than good, their fevered explanations reflecting their biases and presumptions rather than any true insight.
Many popular commentators who obsess over the book of Revelation use it to support both implicit and overt anti-Catholic opinions. Fundamentalists, Mormons, and Jehovah's Witnesses have long associated the famed Whore of Babylon, "the mother of harlots" (Rev. 17:5), with the Catholic Church. Some also link the church of Thyatira (Rev. 2:18-25) with the Catholic Church since her members supposedly "practice immorality" and "eat food sacrificed to idols" (Rev. 2:20).
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You don't come here for the hunting; do you...
It does seem weird...
Jesus answered, The work of God is this: to believe in the one he has sent.
It does seem weird...
NIV 1 Corinthians 4:6
Now, brothers, I have applied these things to myself and Apollos for your benefit, so that you may learn from us the meaning of the saying, "Do not go beyond what is written." Then you will not take pride in one man over against another.
"Sure they do!", Elsie said smarmily!
'When I use a word,' Humpty Dumpty said, in a rather scornful tone, ' it means just what I choose it to mean, neither more nor less.'
'The question is,' said Alice, 'whether you can make words mean so many different things.' 'The question is,' said Humpty Dumpty, 'which is to be master - that's all.' |
May I direct your readers to the Logical Fallicies reply?
Thanks!
There's many on FR who think that Flying Inman members are anti-Christs (or something along that order...)
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That was THEN; this is NOW:
It was beyond belief, worse than the blackest nightmare. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bombing_of_Dresden_in_World_War_II
Rather than Protestantism rendering Holy Spirit to be imperfect based upon the premise that the Holy Spirit did not protect Scripture from the inclusion of error, He can be seen doing just that, as there simply was no infallible indisputable canon until after Luther's death, and the fact is that scholarly dispute about books continued down thru the centuries and right into Trent. Thus by the time the enlarged RC canon was made binding, the Prot. Bible with its ancient OT canon had been printed in the common tongue.
Yet an infallible magisterium was never necessary to recognize and est. writings as being of God, nor does even being the instrument and steward of Scripture mean such magisterium is infallible.
In addition, the Vulgate was not uniform in all its editions and contained errors, and Trent did not specify which edition was to be used, and also was corrected more than once, Trent ordering one itself with the fewest possible faults, leading to the disastrous Vulgata Sixtina , which may have gotten the pope killed, and a coverup of his erroneous work ensued. And Rome's present Bibles have their own Catholic critics.
Meanwhile, to be consistent with himself, Rashputin can charge the EOs with rendering Holy Spirit to be imperfect since the canon generally held by EOs is larger than that of Rome.
The idea that Luther with his non-binding canon removed books from an infallible indisputable canon is simply a fabrication RCs love to parrot, as is the idea that we follow him as a pope. And which refutation Rashputin has been shown, but would not look at.
Which includes arguments regarding the Septuagint, for as has been substantiated, the evidence is contrary to the LXX of the time of Christ containing the apocrypha, among other problems with the LXX argument.
And the Lord enjoined obedience to the scribes and Pharisees, (Mt. 23:2) except where they deviated from Scripture, and never corrected them for rejecting the apocrypha, while Lk. 24:44 best indicates conformity to the tripartite 22 book (=39) canon, and impugns the argument for the Lord's sanction of the apocrypha.
And as also has been said, the logic behind rejecting the Scribes and Pharisees, who sat in the seat of Moses, (Mt. 23:2) due to their rejection of the apocrypha as Scripture, also means we should reject all they held. And yet, as said, it is actually Rome that is most like the Pharisees, with the magisterium being supreme.
..the Pharisees introduced rites in the Temple which originated in popular custom and were without foundation in the Law. Such was the water-procession of the people, on the night of Sukkot, from the Pool of Siloam, ending with the libation of water in the morning and the final beating of the willow-trees upon the altar at the close of the feast. .. For the decision of their Scribes,... they claimed the same authority as for the Biblical law, even in case of error (Sifre, Deut. 153-154); they endowed them with the power to abrogate the Law at times (see Abrogation of Laws), and they went so far as to say that he who transgressed their words deserved death (Ber. 4a). ...They took many burdens from the people by claiming for the sage, or scribe, the power of dissolving vows (Ḥag. i. 8; Tosef., i.). ..Nothing could have been more loathsome to the genuine Pharisee than Hypocrisy....It is such types of Pharisees that Jesus had in view when hurling his scathing words of condemnation against the Pharisees, whom he denounced as "hypocrites," calling them "offspring of vipers"...Exactly so are hypocrites censured in the Midrash.. http://www.jewishencyclopedia.com/articles/12087-pharisees
It makes me wonder about the state of mind of someone who would choose the screenname of RASPUTIN...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grigori_Rasputin
Says the dude whose chooses to be called ELSIE...
Yes, rather “eccentric” to be polite.
Except Mary; you heretic>>>>
Well i,ah, um, hm
Discuss the issues all you want, but do not make it personal.
Thank you for posting that. He most certainly has an intriguing message. I think he is spot on but I do think he misses the connection currently being developed between the Vatican and Islam.
It will be interesting to watch the developing connection between the Vatican and Islam.
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