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To: Steve_Seattle
"I would have no sense of judgment on him," Dolan continued. "God bless ya. I don't think, look, the same Bible that tells us, that teaches us well about the virtues of chastity and the virtue of fidelity and marriage also tells us not to judge people. So I would say, 'Bravo.'

I don't know if Cardinal Dolan is taking the position that Michael Sam is celibate and has a homosexual disorder as a temptation, is a believer who is actively sinning, or is an unbeliever whom he hopes will repent and come to faith. 1 Corinthians 5 would certainly apply if he were asserting he is a Christian. In any case, this is not an issue which should not be judged.

  1. It is reported commonly that there is fornication among you, and such fornication as is not so much as named among the Gentiles, that one should have his father's wife.
  2. And ye are puffed up, and have not rather mourned, that he that hath done this deed might be taken away from among you.
  3. For I verily, as absent in body, but present in spirit, have judged already, as though I were present, concerning him that hath so done this deed,
  4. In the name of our Lord Jesus Christ, when ye are gathered together, and my spirit, with the power of our Lord Jesus Christ,
  5. To deliver such an one unto Satan for the destruction of the flesh, that the spirit may be saved in the day of the Lord Jesus.
  6. Your glorying is not good. Know ye not that a little leaven leaveneth the whole lump? Purge out therefore the old leaven, that ye may be a new lump, as ye are unleavened. For even Christ our passover is sacrificed for us:
  7. Therefore let us keep the feast, not with old leaven, neither with the leaven of malice and wickedness; but with the unleavened bread of sincerity and truth.
  8. I wrote unto you in an epistle not to company with fornicators:
  9. Yet not altogether with the fornicators of this world, or with the covetous, or extortioners, or with idolaters; for then must ye needs go out of the world.
  10. But now I have written unto you not to keep company, if any man that is called a brother be a fornicator, or covetous, or an idolater, or a railer, or a drunkard, or an extortioner; with such an one no not to eat.
  11. For what have I to do to judge them also that are without? do not ye judge them that are within?
  12. But them that are without God judgeth. Therefore put away from among yourselves that wicked person.

and 1 Corinthians 6

  1. Dare any of you, having a matter against another, go to law before the unjust, and not before the saints?
  2. Do ye not know that the saints shall judge the world? and if the world shall be judged by you, are ye unworthy to judge the smallest matters?
  3. Know ye not that we shall judge angels? how much more things that pertain to this life?
  4. If then ye have judgments of things pertaining to this life, set them to judge who are least esteemed in the church.
  5. I speak to your shame. Is it so, that there is not a wise man among you? no, not one that shall be able to judge between his brethren?

There are no Cardinals in the Scriptures, but that is not my main objection. The quotes of Cardinal Dolan, if accurate, bring disrepute on the Catholic Church and is unscriptural.

19 posted on 03/10/2014 8:10:22 PM PDT by af_vet_1981 (The bus came by and I got on, That's when it all began)
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To: af_vet_1981

A well measured post. However I don’t think Sam was coming out to confess his sin but to proclaim it proudly. Proudly to inform us Sam sees his homosexual life as “good” and “healthy.” To folks like us basically Sam has “self sanctified” his sin. At the least Dolan should have quoted Isaiah 5:20. Or at least give the Church’s stance on homosexuality.

The usual “love the sinner, hate the sin” meme is becoming sickening. We love the sinner by presenting the Gospel which is the antidote for the sin that enslaves them.


22 posted on 03/10/2014 9:06:56 PM PDT by redleghunter
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