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Posted on 02/25/2014 9:45:51 AM PST by Alex Murphy
Don’t be fooled. Rome has no more to offer than Joel Osteen. Neither have a gospel that saves.
THE Gospel Defined
http://www.sermonaudio.com/sermoninfo.asp?SID=221413393310
Exactly which is why both Osteen and Rome are in error. And what Osteen could do with Indulgences!
Why does every generation turn out a snake oil salesman like this guy? He’s as sleazy a guy as I’ve ever seen on tv and yet the yokels run to him.
Even Staples would be right in disagreeing with that, as Osteen mixes Truth with critical error, as does Staples and Rome, the former less arrogantly.
Jesus probably looked pretty boring, like the Eucharist before us, so we’d study the Truth He gave rather than the charisma and fashion.
Jesus never looked like a wafer of bread, nor is He ever that, nor did He preach physically consuming human flesh was the necessary means to obtain spiritual and eternal life. Critical error .
Thats strange...... I bought Catholicism 2 years ago
That is what the Bible teaches, but what Catholic church is like that to any comprehensive degree? But while sola ecclesia (the church as supreme and with assured veracity) is an easier path to conformity, and thus cults operate under it, yet this also results in more extensive unity in error, as seen in Rome and in cults, and of churches competing with each other for the title of One True Church.
However, what you really teach is show by what you do, (Ja. 2:18) and foster, and Catholics are far more diverse and liberal than those who are most committed to Scripture being supreme as the assured and basically literal word of God
Osteen does preach a generic sinner’s prayer, for whatever that is worth.
His ministry doesn’t major in that area, however. He’s more interested in encouraging Christians in an area of exalting the Lord that many miss. I wouldn’t suggest that anybody try to live on a steady diet of just Osteen preaching. But it’s not clear to me that Osteen has the idea that you should, any more than a candy or ice cream store expects that candy or ice cream is all you will eat.
Has she tried reading some of his books?
That doesn't sound right to me. I'm pretty sure that they sell cigarettes and booze in the same town where the prostitutes are.
Osteen seems to be genuine Christian, if unbalanced in some areas.
However, larger Christianity, worldwide, is often lacking in enthusiasm in many places. It’s become a dutiful drudgery. They carry their own slough of despond lest they find themselves in a place that lacks it and God should frown.
If Osteen dispels that notion, he will have admirably served a good purpose.
And older, “God So Loved The World.” (Straight rendition of John 3:16-17 to music.)
Almost any symbol can be used to either the devil’s or God’s advancement. The spirit which is brought to bear in its usage is what matters.
I don’t know if he knows the gospel, but he certainly doesn’t preach the gospel. And no man has ever been saved praying the sinner’s prayer. Many who prayed a sinner’s prayer are indeed saved, but they were saved by God’s grace, not because of their own prayers. Christians are “born not of blood, nor of the will of the flesh, nor of the will of man, but of God.” (John 1:13)
The Jesus Christ of Scriptures isn’t the weak Jesus men preach today. He’s not a begging savior who will come into your heart if you are willing. The Jesus Christ of Scripture is the King of Kings and Lord of Lords. He is ruling and reigning on His throne right now. Jesus Christ of the Bible was mighty to save to the uttermost. Those purposed to be saved in eternity past (Ephesians 1) will be saved. Every single one of them. ALL whom the Father giveth will come to Christ. (John 6:37)
If that prayer was furnished to that man at the time he was ready to give his eternal life to the Lord... yes he has, and you have told a lie.
I agree with your sister, I’d rather read Hahn that listen to his pompous assurance bearing.
Frankly I believe you ignore the whole issue of divine Holy Spirit timing here. You create an artificial dichotomy.
If you can find Osteen proclaiming that mouthing the prayer is all that is needed ever, then I’ll take it back. But I think even he knows it needs to be sincere, and that it won’t be sincere until the right time.
Exactly which is why both Osteen and Rome are in error.
That was my point.
Do you any addresses?
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