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To: xzins
"Elevation is built on the vision God gave Pastor Steven. We will protect our unity by supporting his vision." I have not read language like that since the last thing I read about North Korea. Why would a church allow such cult-like manipulation?


9 posted on 02/24/2014 7:34:54 AM PST by Gamecock (Grace is not opposed to human activity. It's opposed to human merit. MSH)
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To: Gamecock
To be fair, those who acted that way at Kim Jong Il's funeral likely knew that if they didn't act that way, they could be imprisoned, shot, or starved.

I used to be in a "christian cult" many years ago. The leader was very controlling, even to the point of telling people they couldn't look at underwear ads in the paper because "they were of the devil".

Reading about this Elevation 'church' sets off alarm bells.

18 posted on 02/24/2014 8:00:17 AM PST by hoagy62 ("Tyranny, like hell, is not easily conquered..."-Thomas Paine. 1776)
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To: Gamecock
That's a perfect illustration!...Unfortunately of most people today..believers and not. I just get the sense the enemy of mens souls is ramping things up for his entry. There has to be a falling away from what is true to "something else"....and there are plenty of power hungry men willing to step up and be the something else...and plenty of people desiring a "hero"....but not a 'Savior'....and Gods giving them what they want now.
43 posted on 02/25/2014 10:04:33 PM PST by caww
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