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1 posted on 02/23/2014 9:52:47 PM PST by Brian Kopp DPM
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That’s one sick article. That a married couple using birth control, is the same as homosexual sodomy. Sick minded logic.


2 posted on 02/23/2014 9:56:13 PM PST by DesertRhino (I was standing with a rifle, waiting for soviet paratroopers, but communists just ran for office.)
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3 posted on 02/23/2014 9:58:50 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet (I will raise $2M for Sarah Palin's next run, what will you do?)
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“But homosexuals may be even more intensely in love with each other and even more firmly committed to mutual fidelity.”

The statistics make that EXTREMELY unlikely.

“They may even be more open to procreation than you are, through adoption”

This is possibly the most re7arded thing I’ve read this year so far. That’s like saying “they may even be more open to cooking than you are, through ordering takeout”

This article is also a little narrow. It’s true that most Catholics do not follow the church’s teaching on contraception, but this is simply not the case in every religious community that opposes sodomy as a sin. The Amish for example, follow these laws to the letter.
And when you say “80% of Catholics use contraception” that’s including a whole lot of people who are not Catholic by any measure, like Nazi Piglosi. There is a litmus test for practicing members of a faith. Dianne Feinstein can say she’s a practicing Jew, but she really isn’t.


5 posted on 02/23/2014 10:07:38 PM PST by Viennacon
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****At the very least, Catholics who choose artificial contraceptive methods, in the interests of consistency, should modify their opposition to gay marriage. If and when they follow the Church’s teaching on contraception, which has not changed over two thousand years and was reiterated by Pope Paul VI in Humanae Vitae, they will have a more secure moral justification for their opposition.****

So if one sin is OK two is better? If one believes it is a sin to use contraceptives but uses them anyway, telling them to add more sins against God is the precise opposite direction one should counsel. True consistency is to oppose homosexual “marriage”, and repent of the use of contraceptives as well.


6 posted on 02/23/2014 10:10:04 PM PST by ResponseAbility (The truth of liberalism is the stupid can feel smart, the lazy entitled, and the immoral unashamed)
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If sodomy, then why not polygamy?

if polygamy, then any not zoo gamy?

if zoo gamy, then why not pedophilia?


8 posted on 02/23/2014 10:17:23 PM PST by Pikachu_Dad (Impeach Sen Quinn)
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There’s no group out there that accepts homosexual actions but doesn’t accept birth control within marriage, as far as I have ever heard of anyhow. You would think there would be a few if there was absolutely no connection there.

Freegards


12 posted on 02/23/2014 10:26:31 PM PST by Ransomed
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This is not very logical, nor premised well.

Doesn’t make much sense.


13 posted on 02/23/2014 10:27:53 PM PST by ifinnegan
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Because despite contraceptives, which require active deliberate use, hetero couples still manage to procreate. Homo couples don’t, ever.


15 posted on 02/23/2014 10:35:15 PM PST by ctdonath2 (Making good people helpless doesn't make bad people harmless.)
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In other words, Anscombe is saying that, if you believe you have a right to non-procreative sexual intercourse, you have no right to criticize non-procreative sex by others — for example, by a gay couple.

That sexual relations are only sanctioned for procreative purposes is heresy, while equating preventing conception with sodomy on that basis is perverse.

Let thy fountain be blessed: and rejoice with the wife of thy youth. Let her be as the loving hind and pleasant roe; let her breasts satisfy thee at all times; and be thou ravished always with her love. (Proverbs 5:18-19)

And Song of Solomon in part glorifies eros in marriage outside any context of child bearing.

19 posted on 02/24/2014 1:55:06 AM PST by daniel1212 (Come to the Lord Jesus as a contrite damned+destitute sinner, trust Him to save you, then live 4 Him)
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Nice. GK was the man wasn’t he? Great reading.

How far humanity has fallen since the protestant sects assented their approval to contraception in the 1930’s. How far catholics have fallen without knowledge of NFP, with 80% estimated using contraception. What I have found interesting is throughout the US the percentage of catholics in a city correspond to the percentage that voted democrat. For instance, if a city voted 55% for 0, the city had about a 55% catholic population. I found these statistics at city data.com.

Man today simply wants to satisfy his lust. We are paying and will pay an even higher price for it too.


21 posted on 02/24/2014 4:41:00 AM PST by Cap'n Crunch
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The sin inherent in contraception is its selfishness. To desire the pleasures of sexual intercourse while seeking to deny life to the children which are its natural consequence and divine purpose is a selfish act. Within marriage sexual intercourse a man and a woman offer themselves body and soul, including the ability to generate new life, to one another; it is a self giving act. Contraception changes this to one in which they use one another, merely seeking to satisfy their lust. It thus becomes a selfish act and a rebellion against God’s design. It denies life to one’s own potential children for the sake of material goods. Contraception makes a mockery of the prayer “thy will be done.” This mentality leads naturally to the acceptance of non-marital sex, abortion and homosexuality.


22 posted on 02/24/2014 5:57:43 AM PST by Petrosius
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In other words, Anscombe is saying that, if you believe you have a right to non-procreative sexual intercourse, you have no right to criticize non-procreative sex by others — for example, by a gay couple.

I can't believe people would post this verbal diarrhea let alone read it...

23 posted on 02/24/2014 9:20:33 AM PST by Iscool (Ya mess with me, you mess with the WHOLE trailer park...)
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