[babygene]

Nobody is married in the church legitimately, and haven’t been for 1/2 a century at least.

Case in point: I was married to my one and only spouse 45 years ago. The Wedding Vows at the time were “love honer and cherish / love honer and obey”. The “obey” part was with your fingers crosses. The Church knew that... It renders the union non-binding as far as canon law is concerned.

[babygene]

crosses - crossed

[vladimir998]

“The Church knew that... It renders the union non-binding as far as canon law is concerned.”

No, it doesn’t.

[old and tired]

The Wedding Vows at the time were “love honer and cherish / love honer and obey”. The “obey” part was with your fingers crosses. The Church knew that... It renders the union non-binding as far as canon law is concerned.

What are you talking about? "Obey" isn't a part of the traditional Catholic vows.

[daniel1212]

Yet the Bible nowhere teaches that any consummated marriage contract was not a marriage, and the broad criteria for annulments (over 60,00 in the US) potentially leaves many Catholics as living in fornication.

Says a SV site: 68% of annulments today [dated] are granted because of "defective consent," which involves at least one of the parties not having sufficient knowledge or maturity to know what was involved in marriage. The ingenuity of judges in confidently asserting that such knowledge or maturity was lacking is amazing. Vasoli says that it is done by substituting "junk psychology" for sound psychology and psychiatry. He quotes the statement of one matrimonial judge: "There is no marriage which, given a little time for investigation, we cannot declare invalid." (www.mostholyfamilymonastery.com/28_Annulments.pdf)