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A Brief History of Same-Sex Marriage and Why Catholics Are Losing the War Against It
Catholic World Report ^ | February 13, 2014 | Carrie Gress

Posted on 02/14/2014 4:07:38 PM PST by NYer

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Carrie Gress has a doctorate in philosophy from the Catholic University of America. She has worked as the Rome Bureau Chief of Zenit's English Edition and a Junior Fellow at the Ethics and Public Policy Center in Washington, DC, serving as the assistant to George Weigel. She lives with her husband and three children in Virginia.
1 posted on 02/14/2014 4:07:38 PM PST by NYer
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To: Tax-chick; GregB; Berlin_Freeper; SumProVita; narses; bboop; SevenofNine; Ronaldus Magnus; tiki; ...

Ping!


2 posted on 02/14/2014 4:08:03 PM PST by NYer ("The wise man is the one who can save his soul. - St. Nimatullah Al-Hardini)
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To: NYer

We’re just losing a battle. The war has been won. This is mop-up.


3 posted on 02/14/2014 4:18:22 PM PST by bboop (does not suffer fools gladly)
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Same-sex marriages are not a new idea just created in the latter part of the Twentieth Century, and never before thought of.

In fact, it has been thought of a LOT over the millennia, going back to the times of Sodom and Gomorrah, and no doubt for a while before that. And almost always, this upsurge in these “situational ethics” becomes strongest just as the fabric of the dominant societies is being torn apart.

Cause-and-effect there, or is this fascination with deviancy just a symptom of a much deeper rot? Either way, the decay continues to feed upon this leniency and licentious behavior.


4 posted on 02/14/2014 4:19:58 PM PST by alloysteel (Obamacare - Death and Taxes now available online. One-stop shopping at its best!)
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To: NYer
stated all very well.....like the traditional priest distraught over the closing down of old parishes because....THERE ARE NO CHILDREN.....

having children is a duty....because each generation depends on the other generations....that young nurse or therapist assisting you to the Bathroom is there because she/he was born...

what do we do when we have no young people?

5 posted on 02/14/2014 4:23:57 PM PST by cherry (.in the time of universal deceit, telling the truth is revolutionary.....)
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To: alloysteel
Same-sex marriages are not a new idea just created in the latter part of the Twentieth Century, and never before thought of.

Actually it has not. Homosexuality was considered separate from marriage, even in Greek society where men had sex with boys (the traditional homosexual activity).

6 posted on 02/14/2014 4:34:39 PM PST by Jeff Chandler (Obamacare: You can't make an omelette without breaking a few eggs.)
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Surveying history for anything resembling same-sex marriage in any culture, clime, or era is a fruitless search.

What worries me is the meaning of this historical detail. I suspect that a better statement is: "Surveying history for anything resembling same-sex marriage in any culture that survived long enough to be noted by historians is a fruitless search."

7 posted on 02/14/2014 4:41:45 PM PST by Pollster1 ("Shall not be infringed" is unambiguous.)
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According to Suetonius, Nero went through with a same-sex marriage.

"He had the testicles cut off of a boy named Sporus, and attempted to transform him into a woman, marrying him with dowry and bridal veil and all due ceremony, then, accompanied by a great crowd, taking him to his house, where he treated him as his wife. Someone made the rather clever joke which is still told that it would have been a good thing for humanity if Nero's father had taken such a wife. This Sporus, decked out in the ornaments of an empress and carried in a litter, he took with him around the meeting places and markets of Greece and later, at Rome, around the Sigillaria, kissing him from time to time." (Nero, ch. 28. Trans. by Catharine Edwards, Oxford World's Classics)

Even the Romans in their most decadent period thought that was preposterous.

8 posted on 02/14/2014 4:42:33 PM PST by Verginius Rufus
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Sorry. All of the fancy verbiage to make homosexuality simply a “reaction to the self-centeredness of society” is once again Rome missing the mark. Homosexuality is simply sin.

Go read Romans 1 & 2. Homosexuality is just an extremely graphic expression of the brokenness of man (equal to being disobedient to parents, murder, etc.). It is sin and until we say so plainly, articles like this will continue to misrepresent the way God looks at the way men live.


9 posted on 02/14/2014 4:42:45 PM PST by Dutchboy88
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The sexual revolution of the 1960s is a marked example of this inversion in the West with the arrival of the pill. Never in the history of the world had the fundamental link between human sexuality and reproduction been so decidedly unhinged, ushering in a new conception of sexuality. Sex became...

It became another form of idolatrous rebellion against God, by gratification of the glands outside of the life-long commitment which provides the secure context for it and for the normal result, children.

Homosexual relations and its "marriage" is a progression of that idolatrous rebellion, and the rest of the marks of moral decline will increasingly become evident.

America is in Romans 1 .

10 posted on 02/14/2014 4:46:58 PM PST by daniel1212 (Come to the Lord Jesus as a contrite damned+destitute sinner, trust Him to save you, then live 4 Him)
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“We’re just losing a battle. The war has been won. This is mop-up.”

Says who? Just because you shout the loudest doesn’t mean you won the fight. That’s what AIDS is for as it can thin the herd.


11 posted on 02/14/2014 4:51:39 PM PST by max americana (fired liberals in our company last election, and I laughed while they cried (true story))
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To: bboop

“The gates of hell shall not prevail against it.”


12 posted on 02/14/2014 4:52:52 PM PST by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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Slippery slope began with the acceptance of artificial birth control.

Accelerated with the acceptance of abortion as a means of birth control.

Rocketed with the acceptance of no-fault divorce.


13 posted on 02/14/2014 5:00:59 PM PST by lightman (O Lord, save Thy people and bless Thine inheritance, giving to Thy Church vict'ry o'er Her enemies.)
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To: NYer

Ping


14 posted on 02/14/2014 5:07:59 PM PST by Rich21IE
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Nothing new here. Why would Leviticus mention the abomination?


15 posted on 02/14/2014 5:13:23 PM PST by FlyingEagle
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To: Verginius Rufus
***Even the Romans in their most decadent period thought that was preposterous. **

And in film...Ain't "she" cute? >/P>

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16 posted on 02/14/2014 5:25:59 PM PST by Ruy Dias de Bivar (Sometimes you need 7+ more ammo. LOTS MORE.)
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“Now, since the family and human society at large spring from marriage, these men will on no account allow matrimony to be the subject of the jurisdiction of the Church. Nay, they endeavor to deprive it of all holiness, and so bring it within the contracted sphere of those rights which, having been instituted by man, are ruled and administered by the civil jurisprudence of the community. Wherefore it necessarily follows that they attribute all power over marriage to civil rulers, and allow none whatever to the Church; and, when the Church exercises any such power, they think that she acts either by favor of the civil authority or to its injury. Now is the time, they say, for the heads of the State to vindicate their rights unflinchingly, and to do their best to settle all that relates to marriage according as to them seems good.”

—Pope Leo XIII, 1880

http://www.vatican.va/holy_father/leo_xiii/encyclicals/documents/hf_l-xiii_enc_10021880_arcanum_en.html

He warned about the danger of the state defining marriage 130+ years ago. To the state, it simply is whatever judges, pols, or the voting majority think it can be at any one time.

Freegards, thanks for all the pings on FR


17 posted on 02/14/2014 5:44:39 PM PST by Ransomed
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To: lightman

All of this needs to be repeated.

**Slippery slope began with the acceptance of artificial birth control.

Accelerated with the acceptance of abortion as a means of birth control.

Rocketed with the acceptance of no-fault divorce.**


18 posted on 02/14/2014 5:48:45 PM PST by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: Verginius Rufus

I wonder if poor Sporus was a willing participant in all of this. Nero, what a role model!


19 posted on 02/14/2014 6:06:43 PM PST by crazycatlady
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To: NYer

Thanks for posting. There’s a lot to think about, not neccessarily what people want to hear, but what they need to hear.


20 posted on 02/14/2014 6:10:56 PM PST by crazycatlady
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