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To: SkyPilot; metmom

Yes, I am fascinated by those near death experiences, although I think of them differently than they are explained away by secularist Drs.

The great apostle Paul wrote about a time he was transformed to another world and saw visions. We Christians know he where he was. Some even postulate that he had actually almost died when he was stoned, and that is when he had the vision.

I guess you could argue that he may have had a near death experience.


23 posted on 02/05/2014 10:59:12 AM PST by OneVike (I'm just a Christian waiting to go home)
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To: OneVike
I've been watching yt videos of NDE's and most of them don't confess Jesus Christ as near as I can tell. So I tell myself to beware. Even though people insist you don't have to worry about "religion".

Paul said it was not lawful to say what he had seen in the third heaven. These people come back and tell all and write books and it's all very impressive. In the end it's up to God

When I was really young, like 5 to 7 years, I imagined I was in a universe that intermeshed with another one, like material in that universe couldn't be seen but went right through me. I wasn't taught anything like that, all I knew about religion was the bible lesson in Sunday school.

Mary Baker Eddy believed like the above; I think she carried it to the point that everything in our universe is an illusion. Well, I don't believe that. Matter is real except it is partly an illusion unless you understand the science of it (which I do as thru a glass darkly, protons, neutrons, electrons but not quarks).

I would say St. Paul had the same thing as a NDE "caught up". That means he was acted upon by external spiritual force(s). However we don't know who may be deceived in these things. My faith tells me St. Paul was not deceived.

Some lady was on C2C last night I think it was and claims there are infinite parallel universes (possible) and that our "oversoul" experiences all different things simultaneously (I don't believe that) but it's a choice. I won't know until it's too late for sure but I'm wary of anyone who introduces heterodoxy into the basic gospel of Christ.

36 posted on 02/05/2014 2:21:24 PM PST by Aliska
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To: OneVike

Paul testified that whether in the body, or out of the body, he couldn’t tell. Yet he certainly had visions.

The near death experiences commonly talked about, often refer to separation from the body. Oxygen depletion causes hypoxia and euphoria (sense of well being). I won’t deny people have experienced visions, but you are not dead.....until the blood is ‘dead’. When the blood is dead, the damage to the rest of the body is irreversible, imo.


38 posted on 02/05/2014 7:42:29 PM PST by Zuriel (Acts 2:38,39....nearly 2,000 years and still working today!)
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