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Notre Dame professor: Hey, maybe the Pope should rethink abortion
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| January 25, 2014
| Ed Morrissey
Posted on 01/26/2014 4:12:28 PM PST by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: morphing libertarian
ND has lost the Faith so it would not surprise me to hear someone there promoting infanticide.
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posted on
01/26/2014 6:42:31 PM PST
by
amihow
To: 2ndDivisionVet
The analogy of rape to someone kidnapped to keep another alive fails because the rape is a one time crime and the kidnapped is a crime that continues for 9 months.
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posted on
01/26/2014 7:42:19 PM PST
by
Raycpa
To: TigersEye
Consciousness, sperm and egg all join at the same moment>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
Agreed. And killing that is indeed killing a sentient being.
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posted on
01/26/2014 7:42:25 PM PST
by
Candor7
(Obama fascism article:(http://www.americanthinker.com/2009/05/barack_obama_the_quintessentia_1.html))
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To: Candor7
And as common sense and modern genetic science will agree,
a sentient
human being.
Acorns never sprout walnut trees. :-)
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posted on
01/26/2014 7:57:09 PM PST
by
TigersEye
(Stupid is a Progressive disease.)
To: 2ndDivisionVet
The Ignatius Bible is a Jesuit version. The Ignatius Bible is not a "Jesuit version." It's called "The Ignatius Bible" because it's published by Ignatius Press. There's no "Jesuit spin."
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posted on
01/26/2014 8:57:07 PM PST
by
BlessedBeGod
(Democrats are Cruz'n for a Bruisin' in 2016. / Obama=Unspeakable Audacity)
To: svcw
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posted on
01/26/2014 10:49:07 PM PST
by
Ray76
(How modern liberals think: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eaE98w1KZ-c)
To: Ray76
And warned and warned and warned...
Seriously how many warnings does she get?
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posted on
01/26/2014 11:23:34 PM PST
by
svcw
(Not 'hope and change' but 'dopes in chains')
To: VerySadAmerican
They should have all been ex-communicated already! This would send a very much needed message through the faith community. .. and no they would not have gained re-election should that have occurred in the first place.
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posted on
01/26/2014 11:28:00 PM PST
by
antceecee
(Bless us Lord, forgive us our sins and bring us to everlasting life.)
To: 2ndDivisionVet; onyx; Salvation; NYer
An organism may be human by purely biological criteria, but still merely potentially human in the full moral sense
Notre Dame philosophy professor Gary Gutting may be human by purely biological criteria, but still merely potentially human in the full moral sense
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posted on
01/27/2014 6:04:35 AM PST
by
campaignPete R-CT
(Let the dead bury the dead. Let the GOP bury the GOP.)
To: 2ndDivisionVet; onyx; Salvation; NYer
I meant to say, too, that I spent the afternoon yesterday at Faneul Hall in Boston at the Mass Citizens for Life annual caucus. A crowd of perhaps 300.
Great to be around a vibrant group ... one that still has a lotta muscle. They are very active and well-financed. Two speakers ... lawyers who argued pro-life cases before SCOTUS.
One is a case involving the Massachusetts “Buffer zone law” for clinics ... used to justify the arrest of a sidewalk counselor. That case has been argued, but not yet decided.
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posted on
01/27/2014 6:30:50 AM PST
by
campaignPete R-CT
(Let the dead bury the dead. Let the GOP bury the GOP.)
To: 2ndDivisionVet; Tax-chick; GregB; Berlin_Freeper; SumProVita; narses; bboop; SevenofNine; ...
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posted on
01/27/2014 7:16:01 AM PST
by
NYer
("The wise man is the one who can save his soul. - St. Nimatullah Al-Hardini)
To: campaignPete R-CT
Thanks so much for telling us.
God bless and keep you.
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posted on
01/27/2014 11:05:06 AM PST
by
onyx
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To: onyx; zeugma; AuH2ORepublican; Kaslin
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posted on
01/27/2014 12:41:24 PM PST
by
campaignPete R-CT
(Let the dead bury the dead. Let the GOP bury the GOP.)
To: campaignPete R-CT
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posted on
01/27/2014 1:45:31 PM PST
by
onyx
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
“rethink baby killing”? no. Not possible
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posted on
01/27/2014 11:49:27 PM PST
by
Cronos
(ObamaÂ’s dislike of Assad is not based on AssadÂ’s brutality but that he isn't a jihadi Moslem)
To: 2ndDivisionVet; allendale; 2banana; mkmensinger
At the same time, the inviolable value of each human life does not imply that no abortion can be moral. Here the case of rape is especially relevant. It is hard to claim that a rape victim has a moral duty to bring to term a pregnancy forced on her by rape,This is a traditional red-herring put forth by proponents of baby-killing.
I refute them with the statistics about Poland -- Poland until the 90s allowed pretty liberal abortion, but then reduced it to allowing abortion only for:
- rape
- incest
- mother's life or health
- foetus life
And how many abortions does it have a year? about 840. That's in a nation 1/10th the size of the US
By that reckoning, if the US allowed only abortions for the above cases, then there would be only 8400 abortions a year. Even if we assume a 100% increase for the US, that should be max 17,000 abortions a year.
In contrast, the US had a million abortions a year....
So the rape, incest etc. accounts for only about 1% or 1.7% of the abortions. The rest are just as "don't want baby"
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posted on
01/27/2014 11:54:16 PM PST
by
Cronos
(ObamaÂ’s dislike of Assad is not based on AssadÂ’s brutality but that he isn't a jihadi Moslem)
To: Cronos
The problem with the rape exception is that you are still accepting the summary execution of a human life for reasons not germane to that life. There are of course better more humane solutions to the so called “rape” scenario, but they would never be considered in moral relativism of today.
To: allendale
I’mnot talking about accepting it, but the liberals use rape/incest (abortions forthese are just 1% of the total abortions) to justify the 99% of abortions that are for “don’t want the baby”
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posted on
01/28/2014 7:32:53 AM PST
by
Cronos
(ObamaÂ’s dislike of Assad is not based on AssadÂ’s brutality but that he isn't a jihadi Moslem)
To: Cronos
Understood. Merely attempting to point out the flaw in the professor’s reasoning. The rape exception is the nose of the camel in the tent argument commonly used by abortionists.
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