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To: af_vet_1981

The Catholics have no succession of anyone other that figments of their imaginations...go read a real history of the world not their propaganda.

And, no, no one (of any integrity) should be willing to claim that their group is THE group. Sorry to disappoint. But, there is no Scriptural support that such a physical/geographical group exists. Can you tell us where you read that the Jewish apostles said that such a singular physical group existed? Most of the apostles are never heard from again (after Jesus’ departure) so what group did they go off and join?

The “group” which does exist is the universal body of Christ that is going to be taken out of here one day.


66 posted on 01/25/2014 3:36:41 PM PST by Dutchboy88
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To: Dutchboy88

>> “And, no, no one (of any integrity) should be willing to claim that their group is THE group. Sorry to disappoint. But, there is no Scriptural support that such a physical/geographical group exists.” <<

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Now you’re making sense!


68 posted on 01/25/2014 3:39:08 PM PST by editor-surveyor (Freepers: Not as smart as I'd hoped they'd be)
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To: Dutchboy88
Yes, I will read because I have an open mind and heart and only want to please God. You have answered that there is no true and visible church but rather an invisible church which you cannot really identify. On the surface I find that very incongruent with the gospels, Acts, etc. I fully respect the authority of the Apostles. Their words were life to many, and death to some. If you did find out there was a church with apostolic succession, would you humble yourself and submit to its authority ?
Solitary churches or churches founded/centered around a person (Swaggarts, Osteens, Luther, Calvin, etc.) seem prone to illegitimacy and error. If the Reformation had maintained unity with the Orthodox churches, and the Schism had been repaired it would be far different. To claim there was no apostolic succession is to undermine what Jesus prayed for in John 17, not to mention what he told the apostles elsewhere. If you want to deny the legitimacy of the Catholic claim to apostolic succession convincingly it is incumbent on you to propose an alternate line of succession.
78 posted on 01/25/2014 4:02:59 PM PST by af_vet_1981 (The bus came by and I got on, That's when it all began,)
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To: Dutchboy88
The “group” which does exist is the universal body of Christ that is going to be taken out of here one day.

I was kinda with you until this getting taken out of here one day. God created this earth and He intends on reclaiming it and it is here that Christ will establish His Kingdom. Where is it the Christians intend to spend this time?

174 posted on 01/25/2014 7:56:35 PM PST by Just mythoughts (Jesus said Luke 17:32 Remember Lot's wife.)
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