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To: Luircin

I refer you to Titus 1:4-well almost the entire letter. Paul, to whose authority you must submit (he was the Apostle to the Gentiles) spiritually fathered Titus and was instructing Titus, how to appoint bishops and elders throughout Crete to maintain the doctrinal and practical unity of the churches (this is the succession I am discussing).


107 posted on 01/25/2014 4:43:56 PM PST by af_vet_1981 (The bus came by and I got on, That's when it all began,)
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To: af_vet_1981

Alright, I see that. And of course there needs to be SOMEONE in authority in a church body, if for no other reason than someone needs to teach the apostolic teaching.

I don’t see how this goes into the authority of the Roman pontiff, though. Paul’s concerns aren’t about a line of succession; Paul’s concerns are that pure teaching is observed and that it comes from those who are beyond reproach.

This passage, from what I can see, suggests more that apostolic succession comes about by teaching the same thing that Paul taught—which is the same thing that Jesus taught.


115 posted on 01/25/2014 4:55:04 PM PST by Luircin
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To: af_vet_1981

“I refer you to Titus 1:4-well almost the entire letter. Paul, to whose authority you must submit (he was the Apostle to the Gentiles) spiritually fathered Titus and was instructing Titus, how to appoint bishops and elders throughout Crete to maintain the doctrinal and practical unity of the churches (this is the succession I am discussing).”

Paul was instructing about appointing leaders to local assemblies.
He said nothing about Apostolic succession.


117 posted on 01/25/2014 5:00:07 PM PST by aMorePerfectUnion (Truth is hate to those who hate the Truth)
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To: af_vet_1981

It’s interesting that you use Titus 1 to try to justify apostolic succession. First of all they were to be “the husband of one wife”. Then it’s obvious that Titus was in Crete which was a local assembly of believers. Paul’s letter to Titus would support the contention that the leadership in each local assembly would have been the succession of apostolic succession. That whole chapter would negate the false premise of Rome that there is only one line of succession.


193 posted on 01/26/2014 7:02:41 AM PST by CynicalBear (For I decided to know nothing among you except Jesus Christ)
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