Posted on 01/23/2014 9:29:40 PM PST by NKP_Vet
1. Best One-Sentence Summary: I am convinced that the Catholic Church conforms much more closely to all of the biblical data, offers the only coherent view of the history of Christianity (i.e., Christian, apostolic Tradition), and possesses the most profound and sublime Christian morality, spirituality, social ethic, and philosophy.
2. Alternate: I am a Catholic because I sincerely believe, by virtue of much cumulative evidence, that Catholicism is true, and that the Catholic Church is the visible Church divinely-established by our Lord Jesus, against which the gates of hell cannot and will not prevail (Mt 16:18), thereby possessing an authority to which I feel bound in Christian duty to submit.
3. 2nd Alternate: I left Protestantism because it was seriously deficient in its interpretation of the Bible (e.g., "faith alone" and many other "Catholic" doctrines - see evidences below), inconsistently selective in its espousal of various Catholic Traditions (e.g., the Canon of the Bible), inadequate in its ecclesiology, lacking a sensible view of Christian history (e.g., "Scripture alone"), compromised morally (e.g., contraception, divorce), and unbiblically schismatic, anarchical, and relativistic. I don't therefore believe that Protestantism is all bad (not by a long shot), but these are some of the major deficiencies I eventually saw as fatal to the "theory" of Protestantism, over against Catholicism. All Catholics must regard baptized, Nicene, Chalcedonian Protestants as Christians.
4. Catholicism isn't formally divided and sectarian (Jn 17:20-23; Rom 16:17; 1 Cor 1:10-13).
5. Catholic unity makes Christianity and Jesus more believable to the world (Jn 17:23).
6. Catholicism, because of its unified, complete, fully supernatural Christian vision, mitigates against secularization and humanism.
7. Catholicism avoids an unbiblical individualism which undermines Christian community (e.g., 1 Cor 12:25-26).
8. Catholicism avoids theological relativism, by means of dogmatic certainty and the centrality of the papacy.
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>>>Interesting. This is even more devastating toward Protestantism than the original quote I posted:<<<
Vlad,
As a self-proclaimed “Church Historian,” you naturally see the irony of that statement, considering Luther also wrote the following in the same discourse:
“We tell them that they are the devil’s church,” and “[Christianity] is not found in only one place, as, for example, under the pope; but it exists over the entire earth wherever Christians are found.”
Frankly, I think Luther to have been much too generous.
As a “historian” you are aware that God used the evil Babylonians and Romans to punish the children of Israel. Be aware that God also used the evil Catholic “Church;” but in this case to carry forward his Word that had been compiled and preserved by earlier, Christian men.
Philip
Lysdexia - a peach imspediment you live to learn with. ;o)
First of all, for Christians he has never left us. And promised He never would.
He set up His church while he was here on earth in his spiritual body.
I've explained it to you many times, even on this thread.
How His church works, who it is made up of etc.
Catholics are free to join, the instructions are in the Bible.
Since then most Christians have held to His Cchurch and His truth
Very true! I have changed "church" to lowercase "c" because "Church" is often used as shorthand for the Catholic Belief System and it's organization.
...every generation has it’s Judas who tries to lead others astray
Catholicism started about 300 years after Jesus did his earthly Ministry in a human body.
“A fellow who cannot spell, like you, is generally considered unqualified to grade spelling papers.”
A fellow who cannot spell, like you, is generally considered unqualified to grade his own work.
“Besides, those were not spelling errors on my part, but dyslexia.”
So dyslexia is posting and you aren’t?
“Are you making fun of my dyslexia?”
Is ascribing human like abilities to dyslexia fun? I wouldn’t know so I am asking.
“If my mother was still around she would be after you.”
No, I think she’s before me. Hence, she’s not here.
“She was a member of a powerful organization: D.A.M. (Mothers Against Dyslexia.)”
But then she got some help for you and joined M.A.D.A.M. (Mothers Against Mothers Against Dyslexia)
“So, watch your step, fellow. LOL!”
Okiedokie.
Here is the post that there is no disputing, and thanks for that!
I was going to reply to another post of yours to me but it disappeared before I could post an excellent rebuttal.Christ set up HisCchurch before He left usFirst of all, for Christians he has never left us. And promised He never would.
He set up His church while he was here on earth in his spiritual body.
I've explained it to you many times, even on this thread.
How His church works, who it is made up of etc.
Catholics are free to join, the instructions are in the Bible.
Since then most Christians have held to His
Cchurch and His truthVery true! I have changed "church" to lowercase "c" because "Church" is often used as shorthand for the Catholic Belief System and it's organization.
...every generation has it’s Judas who tries to lead others astray
Catholicism started about 300 years after Jesus did his earthly Ministry in a human body.
LOL nice rebuttal!
Catholicism started about 300 years after Jesus did his earthly Ministry in a human body.The Gospel according to Syncro. Odd, historically false, but he appears to believe it.
Oh and modern day people don't have gospels, but facts is an irritant ain't they?
“Historically true.”
Not. But if your odd little cult wants to live the lie, go for it.
Show us in Scripture where the assumption of Mary is found.
Why?
As for what the True Church teaches, it is all available, go to the Catechism and learn, or not.
Again, what do you care sweetie? You and your cult of one knows all, and needs no one, right?
>>>No more than Protestant anti-Catholics who post old snark like “hoisted by one’s own petard.”<<<
That phrase is reserved for spell checkers who can’t spell.
Philip
It’s the SAPP thingie again.
Roios: Rome’s Own Interpretation of Scripture.
LOL! That’s a good one. But I think you might be giving them too much credit with the word “interpretation.”
Philip
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